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Old 04-10-2018, 06:18 PM
 
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Why is Poland so white?
Because it is for Poles, and full of Poles. Who are White.
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Old 04-10-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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Because it is for Poles, and full of Poles. Who are White.
If a black family moved to Poland and had a kid there. That kid would undeniably still be Polish
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Old 04-10-2018, 08:02 PM
 
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If a black family moved to Poland and had a kid there. That kid would undeniably still be Polish
You are attempting to remove national identity from genetics, which isn't so possible in Europe nor in most of the world. There are blacks with Polish citizenship, but there are no Polish who are Black. There are Indians with Dutch citizenship, but there are no Dutch who are Indians (the word "Dutch" specifically referring to being genetically Germanic, as it specifically refers to the genetic common ancestor of all genetically Germanic people. As it has for millenia. There are no Blacks nor Indians, for example, who descended from this ancestor).

So, yes, it is deniable that Black people can or ever are "Polish". Black people are African. To be Polish is to be at least somewhat related (certain subclades that have resulted in mixing with Poles over long periods), if not exactly of the R1a haplotype group, with he appropriate subclade, of central Europe. I'd give you Afro-Polish, Polish referring to citizenship. But that's it as a practical matter. As a mater of fact, Poland is the epicenter for the Central European Slavic haplotype. Those people are the Poles genetically, culturally, historically, and in every conceivable manner that is essential to Polish identity. A black child can no more adopt it than a Polish person can legitimately declare himself Congolese by virtue of being born on a specific patch of dirt.

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Old 04-10-2018, 08:13 PM
 
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If a black family moved to Poland and had a kid there. That kid would undeniably still be Polish
This post, combined with your previous post that questions why there isn't less of a percentage of the skin color of the Polish people, tells me that you have no issues replacing any people with a new people as long as that new people adopts the name of the tribe that they are replacing.
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Old 04-10-2018, 09:25 PM
 
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if Rachel Dolezal can't and won't be considered black, then surely a black person (or any other person, even other Europeans) can't be a Pole. Yes that person can become a Polish national, but will never become ethnically Polish.
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Old 04-10-2018, 09:51 PM
 
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This post, combined with your previous post that questions why there isn't less of a percentage of the skin color of the Polish people, tells me that you have no issues replacing any people with a new people as long as that new people adopts the name of the tribe that they are replacing.
Wow. Nice job jumping to assumptions right there. I just love 2018, people are so kind.....Seriously what the hell would make you jump to that assumption. So what if 5% of a country is black.......So what if it's 30% non white............As long as those immigrants gradually integrate themselves and whites don't go extinct I fail to see the problem. I'm just wondering why Poland isn't diversifying compared to other European countries. That's all I'm wondering. Sheesh If this keeps happening I might have to avoid the Europe forums all together, y'all are way to passionate about this multiculturalism stuff.

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Old 04-10-2018, 09:55 PM
 
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if Rachel Dolezal can't and won't be considered black, then surely a black person (or any other person, even other Europeans) can't be a Pole. Yes that person can become a Polish national, but will never become ethnically Polish.
Is John Boyega not British? Is Tony Parker not Belgian? Are white people born in Africa not African or are they European? If you are born in a country and speak that language, than your nationality belongs to that country. End of discussion.
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:01 PM
 
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Is John Boyega not British? Is Tony Parker not Belgian? Are white people born in Africa not African or are they European? If you are born in a country and speak that language, than your nationality belongs to that country. End of discussion.
The question that I have actually is WHY some European countries ARE diversifying?
What's the real reason behind it?
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:04 PM
 
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Germany: Migrants 'may have fuelled violent crime rise' - BBC News Fun times.
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:06 PM
 
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The question that I have actually is WHY some European countries ARE diversifying?
What's the real reason behind it?
IDK. Personally I don't get the obsession with forced multiculturalism. But I'm all for smart immigration with hard working immigrants who want to contribute to their new country.
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