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That's not true, the fact is that some bordering Russian regions were also populated by Ukrainians, plus the Donbass region of course.
The problem is that both Russian empire and the Soviet empire tried to russify Ukraine and all parts of the empire as well, and they succeeded more in the bordering regions of course, but that's not fair.
All right, so Polonization of Ukraine was "more fair," right?
( Do they even teach you history nowadays, or are they too busy in Ukraine currently simply trying to re-write it )
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I used to work with a couple of guys from Donbass region, they moved to Kyiv for better salaries and lifestyle, but they've never admired Russia and talked about rejoing with it, on the contrary they stated there were a lot of differences in culture of our two nations.
No offense to Russians, but they agreed that Ukrainians are usually more tolerant and cultured.
Yes there are differences ( there are differences in culture of America's South and America's North as well - it's only natural when the country is big,) but your statements based on "expertise" of some "couple of guys" from Donbass? That's downright funny.
That's not true, the fact is that some bordering Russian regions were also populated by Ukrainians, plus the Donbass region of course.
The problem is that both Russian empire and the Soviet empire tried to russify Ukraine and all parts of the empire as well, and they succeeded more in the bordering regions of course, but that's not fair.
I used to work with a couple of guys from Donbass region, they moved to Kyiv for better salaries and lifestyle, but they've never admired Russia and talked about rejoing with it, on the contrary they stated there were a lot of differences in culture of our two nations.
No offense to Russians, but they agreed that Ukrainians are usually more tolerant and cultured.
Yes, yes, yes. Everyone there is true Ukrainians in one hundred generations.
But for some reason everyone they speak Russian...
He does, he tried to negotiate, he started the cease fie, but the terrorists failed to keep it, the very next day they started shooting again.
Petro refuses to negotiate, he has stated this very clearly. He is not even part of the current negotiations, Russia is. The cease fire is an ultimatum, not a negotiation as are the conditions.
That is ok, many revolts and separatists movements always start off like this, it is not like England granted legitimacy to the US colonists who were revolting, and took years until England finally conceded.
He does, he tried to negotiate, he started the cease fie, but the terrorists failed to keep it, the very next day they started shooting again.
"Terrorists?"
Hmm, let's look at the definition of the word "Terrorism" to begin with
"The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims."
So guess who fits into this definition first of all, but not Pravy Sector et al on Maidan.
Is this terrorist organization outlawed yet?
Don't think so.
Now they are raiding the businesses in Eastern Ukraine by the way, making "judgment" who is "loyal" to Kiev's government and who is not. And you have a nerve to call Donbass fighters who protect their land from this scum "terrorists?"
Petro refuses to negotiate, he has stated this very clearly. He is not even part of the current negotiations, Russia is. The cease fire is an ultimatum, not a negotiation as are the conditions.
That is ok, many revolts and separatists movements always start off like this, it is not like England granted legitimacy to the US colonists who were revolting, and took years until England finally conceded.
They think that if Russian media is full of propaganda, Ukrainian media is not.
What naive people, really...
The Dumbass separatists have absolutely no legitimacy. Around as much as Pravy Sektor.
As mentioned before; most separatists movements never have official legitimacy from the gov they are separating from, and from many countries in the world. Even Finland at first was not recognized by countries like the US.
So why didn't so-called "legitimate government" of Kiev disarm Pravy Sector and other nationalists to begin with?
Duh! They couldn't, since it's the military force they rely on!
They did disarm, evicted them from that hotel and sent them on busses back to Lviv a long time ago.
Of course, nothing is ever finished in Ukraine either. I've lost all faith in the Ukrainian army as well.
They did disarm, evicted them from that hotel and sent them on busses back to Lviv a long time ago.
Of course, nothing is ever finished in Ukraine either. I've lost all faith in the Ukrainian army as well.
When Kiev disarms, and even better arrests, the nutcase radical Lyashko, I will be convinced. Until then, Kiev is using non-gov paramilitary units for support, due obviously to the lack of Kiev's ability to gather enough strength to take even a small town in Donbas.
The separatists also had to deal with their own fringe elements, and have disbanded groups and arrested fringe leaders.
I see the US president is going to request $500 million to train and arm Syrian rebels. But yet, it is hyper-critical if Russia does the same for the separatists in Donbas. Yes, way outside the topic, but I love the hypocrisy in all of it; the US screaming "respect sovereignty of Ukraine", all the while supporting groups that want to overthrow the gov in other countries.
Of course all of this could have been avoided by simply using the election and constitutional process...I wonder how Ukraine's economy is doing with the Donbas area out of commission, the resources Ukraine is spending along with the largest economic area, that being Donbas, out of commission, has to be wrecking havoc on the economy of Ukraine.
Ultimatum. And what if Putin responds "no"? Kelly will start to cry?
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