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Old 09-14-2015, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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That would be a bit extreme to say, but you cannot deny that European powers have been exploiting the world's natural ressources for centuries and the trade has not been really fair to say the least.

It is just natural that people who live in such countries would want to join the wealthiest ones, especially considering that these same wealthy countries are already exploiting their land and sometimes have exported their language and culture (French in Western Africa, English in Pakistan, India, etc).
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:15 AM
 
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the media bias in potraying the invadors.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV31...has_verified=1

i wonder why this video has a "content warning", lol.
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Maine
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I was thinking of this thread because I noticed that the media keep showing mostly child refugees. There are of course probably many refugee families with children. But if you notice the background shots the majority of the refugees actually seem to be young men.
This is very true in the American news/propaganda networks, every story is about the children, or pregnant women. But even there best cropping and editing cannot block out the enormous amount of young military age men.



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Old 09-15-2015, 05:22 PM
 
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the media bias in potraying the invadors.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV31...has_verified=1

i wonder why this video has a "content warning", lol.
You can see both images on Russian sites. ( as you've noticed some of them are from R.T.)
But whether Russians are gloating or wringing their hands over the fate of Europe, they understand very well what is happening. And in no way they are talking about "learning how to integrate people from different parts of the world from overseas cousins" - the way Americans do.
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Old 09-16-2015, 05:14 AM
 
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Many of the men look quite muscular and well-fed. They obviously haven't had it all that bad in Syria up until relatively recently (if at all). Why aren't they fighting for their freedom against Assad and/or Isis? Or maybe that's the issue; many of these people are or were Assad supporters?
They are fleeing because of war and massive persecution in their countries.
They would not have left Syria if there was peace. Infact a large majority of Syrians would not want to come to the Europe if there was peace in their country. In addition there are major crimes against humanity and with it the use of chemical weapons. People are also being tortured or killed including innocent civilians due to their backgrounds. If you see your homeland constantly bombed withf no prospect of peace in sight and you are forced to flee from your home.

Even if they remained in Syria, they or their families run a big risk of being persecuted or killed, and so far hundreds of thousands of people have died.

Also it has issues such as:
Around 60% of Syrians are jobless and around the same proportion live in extreme poverty, meaning that they cannot afford the basics they need to stay alive, according to the UN-backed report.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/shyamanthaas...ers#.eqpGo0GRa

Of course the Syrians may look to you well fed, that the same case as the Jewish refugees that fled Nazi Germany before WW2. Infact you see them well dressed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St....uisHamburg.jpg

But of course most people here are opposed to Syrian refugees and it was the same for German Jewish Refugees in the 1930s as there was so much opposition for refugees then.
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Old 09-16-2015, 05:33 AM
 
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It would seem that quite a few Mid-Eastern, African, and West Asian countries are ridding themselves of a significant portion of their previously burdensome dregs.

Our knee-jerk rush to show compassion may yet be our undoing.
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Old 09-16-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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touching on this topic, the anti immigration party the sweden democrats had 27.3% in the latest gallup poll that was released a few hours ago, 5.5% larger than the 2nd largest party the social democrats.
i'm kind of ambivalent to this. on one hand it's good that people are starting to react, but it's also a sign of how far down the drain this country has gone. big troubles ahead....
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Old 09-16-2015, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 40º43 N
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They are fleeing because of war and massive persecution in their countries.
They would not have left Syria if there was peace. Infact a large majority of Syrians would not want to come to the Europe if there was peace in their country.
So, we must blame United States, Turkey, some Arab emirates and some western European countries which have been supported Syrian rebels so much since four years ago.
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Old 09-16-2015, 02:56 PM
 
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But of course most people here are opposed to Syrian refugees and it was the same for German Jewish Refugees in the 1930s as there was so much opposition for refugees then.
The vast majority of migrants are not refugees and not from Syria.

And no, it has zero to do with German Jewish refugees. That make no sense on any level. The typical migrant is a young male from the Balkans.
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Old 09-16-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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The vast majority of migrants are not refugees and not from Syria.

And no, it has zero to do with German Jewish refugees. That make no sense on any level. The typical migrant is a young male from the Balkans.
What are you talking about ? Are you saying most of this young man are from Balkan? Oh, please!
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