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I think maybe you're talking it a bit too far. "Well, in Europe they didn't have this American ingredient, but they did have THIS [food that is vaguely similar but not really]"--what that means is that the cuisines are quite different.
For example, potatoes, pumpkins and squash are not much at all like turnips, rutabaga, kohlrabi and celeriac.
Corn is a grain, sure, but everyone all over the world eats grains. Central Americans eat a lot of corn and Southeast Asians eat a lot of rice, but no one would say their foods are more or less the same because it's all grain.
And for what it's worth, I also disagree that a burger is fundamentally "fast food crap." You must never have had a really good burger!
Now when I think of it, corn was showing up rarely in Moscow's stores when I was growing up, it was practically a delicacy available only around September I'm guessing)))
The common grains were rye, wheat and buckwheat.
This "beluga" (осётр?) is the ultimate source of the black caviar, is it not?
Yes, it's a beluga. But it's not a sturgeon, it's from the sturgeon family. Beluga is the largest, sturgeon is smaller.. there is also a sterlet, it is smaller than a sturgeon.
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The pics are clearly pre-revolutionary, so S.A. was providing the proof ( I assume) that caviar is not something that came along in Soviet times.
Just the opposite. The photos were taken after the revolution. The first photo is directly signed 1921. The second is also most likely made after the revolution, judging by the clothes.
Granted Wenatchee, has traditionally had lots of good ethnic restaurants. Unfortunately, except for Mexican it is usually ONE of each type and when the owners die so does the restaurant.
When I lived in Vancouver, BC there was a Ukrainian fast food chain that sold Vareneky and Ukrainian borsch.
Yes, it's a beluga. But it's not a sturgeon, it's from the sturgeon family. Beluga is the largest, sturgeon is smaller.. there is also a sterlet, it is smaller than a sturgeon.
Just the opposite. The photos were taken after the revolution. The first photo is directly signed 1921. The second is also most likely made after the revolution, judging by the clothes.
OK if it's 1922, then for the heck of it let's go back to 1908 ( the color and soundtrack are all fake of course,) but at 3:58 you can clearly see the sturgeon at the market.
So they are the source of caviar too, no?
( Sorry it's horrible to say, but I have no idea what fish looks what))) )
OK if it's 1922, then for the heck of it let's go back to 1908 ( the color and soundtrack are all fake of course,) but at 3:58 you can clearly see the sturgeon at the market.
So they are the source of caviar too, no?
( Sorry it's horrible to say, but I have no idea what fish looks what))) )
Yes, of course you are right and beluga and sturgeon were the source of caviar. It was both in the Russian Empire and in the USSR. Perhaps I misinterpreted the post of a Straight Arrow,sorry.
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Originally Posted by Straight Arrow View Post Hope this, photo circa 1891? helps too:
But the caption to the photo clearly says "1921". And the second photo, judging by the clothes, was taken after the First World War. So I decided that the Straight Arrow was mistaken about the fact that caviar was only in the USSR. That is, he mentions 1891 and a photo of 1921. I took it like, "Well, where is 1891 here? It's 1921"
Yes, of course you are right and beluga and sturgeon were the source of caviar. It was both in the Russian Empire and in the USSR. Perhaps I misinterpreted the post of a Straight Arrow,sorry.
But the caption to the photo clearly says "1921". And the second photo, judging by the clothes, was taken after the First World War. So I decided that the Straight Arrow was mistaken about the fact that caviar was only in the USSR.
Do you have good restaurants in town?
I've been to couple of places in Moscow, and I am on a fence so far.
Granted Wenatchee, has traditionally had lots of good ethnic restaurants. Unfortunately, except for Mexican it is usually ONE of each type and when the owners die so does the restaurant.
When I lived in Vancouver, BC there was a Ukrainian fast food chain that sold Vareneky and Ukrainian borsch.
( I mean I know why I need to make it to the Russian store here in US, as soon as...)
To be honest, I like to eat delicious food and I like to cook.. I make the cheese myself.. I'm driving moonshine. That's why I try to cook different dishes from different cuisines of the world. If there is time, then on weekends I have something like a culinary duel. Something is working out, ыomething not yet. I love differentcuisine, Thai,Slavic, European,Asian and other.
Naturally, my favorite dishes are Olivier salad, borscht, dumplings, holodez,pilaf.
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Something is working out, ыomething not yet. I love differentcuisine, Thai,Slavic, European,Asian and other. 
