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Old 02-23-2014, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Salinas, CA
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Um, I'm a black woman and my skin is not oily at all, it's very dry actually... Just saying.... That being said, yes most of the black women I know did age very well. But, there are a few black women in my family that did not--and it was because of their lifestyle--smoking, stress, poverty, etc. As for white women--the ones I see that age terribly are actually the ones that tan a lot, dye their hair a lot, smoke, or eat unhealthy. You know the orange "hot" attractive looking girls at 20, who still tan like crazy in their thirties and wake up at 40 with an orange permanent tint and wrinkly skin. I think that while sun is good for you, tanning all the time(year long--tan beds and all) is NOT healthy for you, especially if you do frequently.

And the person who said asian woman age better than any group? Really? I have yet to see an Asian woman that looks super young when they are fifty or that has aged any better than any other group... I just have not seen it. I think Asian women age well, don't get me wrong, but not better than other groups... Though they tend to be the slimmest race of women(I noticed).

All things being equal, I'd say that while I have seen more black women aging great when they are older, I have seen women of other races who aged just as nicely if they weren't tanning excessively or constantly out in the sun. So I can surmise that as long as women do not tan excessively, partake in a healthy lifestyle, and have good genes that it is possible that they will age well no matter their race.
I was the one that said that about Asian women. There are not many black women that live in my region. There are far more Latino, white, and Asian women. There is one town in my county that I seldom visit that has a significant number of black women, but even there they are outnumbered by latino women. So I am basing it on my experience.

Having said that, I totally agree with everything in your last paragraph. This senseless obsession with getting more sun (tan) is what causes most people to age prematurely. Genes also play a role for certain.
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Old 02-23-2014, 05:06 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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As a former boyfriend of mine (African descent) said to me (ivory-pale girl of Irish descent) said to me when I asked him if he'd like to go to the beach... "Seriously? How often do you see black folks just lying around in the sun? We don't go to the beach, and black girls don't like to get their hair wet."

No idea how much truth to that, but it had never really occurred to me, and his utter incredulity was pretty funny to me. I'd assumed that since he'd grown up in So Cal, the beach would be a given. Apparently not so.
Actually, your friend (of African descent) is sort of full of it. Please stop repeating the ignorance.
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Old 02-23-2014, 05:23 PM
 
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Darker skinned people tend to have thicker skin. I know white women who are aghast at how I can exfoliate but exfoliating even once a week for them would land them with weird plucked-feathers skin. Melanin also helps, too.
Thicker skin/more collagen is the answer, more than merely sun protection from melanin. The skin of blacks will tend to thicken rather than thin (as it does with whites) for several decades through middle age before beginning to thin at advanced old age.

But black skin ages in its own way. For instance, black people tend to collect "age moles" over the face, arms, back and shoulders which begin by the late 20s. These are harmless signs of aging for blacks, but might spell skin cancer for whites.

It's also true that black skin will create "keloid" more readily than white skin--building a thick, discolored scar from even a superficial wound--which makes plastic surgery that involves cutting into the skin more risky for blacks.

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Old 02-23-2014, 05:33 PM
 
Location: NoVa
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Actually, your friend (of African descent) is sort of full of it. Please stop repeating the ignorance.
Yep, plenty of African-Americans at the beach. At least there were when I was younger. I would say the last time I went to the beach was 25 years ago.

Of course that is not to say that her friend did not say that to her.

What I hope that people will get out of this, if anything, is that no matter what color you are, cancer does not discriminate.

People of all colors should be wearing sunscreen. The skin cancer does not just pop up right away. It can take years and years. People who spend an active outdoor life find themselves in trouble years down the road.

It is true, however, that people with fair skin and lighter colored eyes are more susceptible. I have photosensitivity, so I begin to burn pretty quickly when the UV rays are high. This has todo with medication, not the fact that I am white.

Photosensitivity - SkinCancer.org

Skin Types and At-Risk Groups - SkinCancer.org

Acral lentiginous melanoma, a very virulent form of the disease, is more common among darker-skinned people. These melanomas tend to appear on parts of the body not often exposed to the sun, and often remain undetected until after the cancer has spread. Check your skin head-to-toe each month, paying careful attention to any suspicious growths, and make sure you have an annual professional skin checkup. Keep an eye out for any suspicious growths, especially on the palms, soles of the feet and mucous membranes.
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Untrue. Blacks produce more oil. They are more likely to have oily skin than dry skin. More melanin doesn't have anything to do with less collagen loss and wrinkling. Black people have tighter muscles tendons and ligaments. Men age better than women for the very same reason. Other races actually wrinkle and sag before black people including Asians who really doesn't age well.
I would love to see these studies about oily skinned black people. Virtually all of the black people I know, myself included have very dry skin.

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Yep, plenty of African-Americans at the beach. At least there were when I was younger. I would say the last time I went to the beach was 25 years ago.
There is truth to the statement about black people not going to the beach. It is complicated. For example, my parents didn't grow up going to the beach, even though they didn't live too far, because the beaches were segregated and the black beach was inconveniently located.

Separately, they did not know how to swim and each had close relatives drown. Since they were afraid they didn't go rothe beach or pool. Drowning is very common for blacks because per capita less of us know how to swim, so the beach avoidance has a double legacy.
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Old 02-23-2014, 08:45 PM
 
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I would love to see these studies about oily skinned black people. Virtually all of the black people I know, myself included have very dry skin.



There is truth to the statement about black people not going to the beach. It is complicated. For example, my parents didn't grow up going to the beach, even though they didn't live too far, because the beaches were segregated and the black beach was inconveniently located.

Separately, they did not know how to swim and each had close relatives drown. Since they were afraid they didn't go rothe beach or pool. Drowning is very common for blacks because per capita less of us know how to swim, so the beach avoidance has a double legacy.

I agree Jade... My skin is very dry, and so is most of the black folks I know. My youngest sister has oily skin, and my mother had oily skin, but that's it... I don't really think a lot of black people have oily skin. I'm not sure why that poster keeps saying that black people have oily skin...
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:16 PM
 
Location: SC
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I will not stop responding to you until I'm finish serving you. I will repeat everything I said until your ears bleed. Stop being dishonest and trying to spin your stance. If you learn how to do that this convo would have ended several posts ago.

I suggest you chuckle since you are burning with resentment which is totally unnecessary and somewhat cruel. Be secure with your self pale face.
Reported you, angry woman...
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:16 PM
 
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The sun a killer...
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:18 PM
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Um, I'm a black woman and my skin is not oily at all, it's very dry actually... Just saying.... That being said, yes most of the black women I know did age very well. But, there are a few black women in my family that did not--and it was because of their lifestyle--smoking, stress, poverty, etc. As for white women--the ones I see that age terribly are actually the ones that tan a lot, dye their hair a lot, smoke, or eat unhealthy. You know the orange "hot" attractive looking girls at 20, who still tan like crazy in their thirties and wake up at 40 with an orange permanent tint and wrinkly skin. I think that while sun is good for you, tanning all the time(year long--tan beds and all) is NOT healthy for you, especially if you do frequently.

And the person who said asian woman age better than any group? Really? I have yet to see an Asian woman that looks super young when they are fifty or that has aged any better than any other group... I just have not seen it. I think Asian women age well, don't get me wrong, but not better than other groups... Though they tend to be the slimmest race of women(I noticed).

All things being equal, I'd say that while I have seen more black women aging great when they are older, I have seen women of other races who aged just as nicely if they weren't tanning excessively or constantly out in the sun. So I can surmise that as long as women do not tan excessively, partake in a healthy lifestyle, and have good genes that it is possible that they will age well no matter their race.
I think you are right-on here: That orange look it not attractive in my opinion. I would rather have a nice ivory-white woman than some orange-tanned one.

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Old 02-23-2014, 09:27 PM
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Separately, they did not know how to swim and each had close relatives drown. Since they were afraid they didn't go rothe beach or pool. Drowning is very common for blacks because per capita less of us know how to swim, so the beach avoidance has a double legacy.
This is pretty true as well, I remember something on television about Cullen Jones (an African American Olympic Swimmer) who did some outreach to the African American community in regards to this issue of getting them involved in and learning how to swim. I was amazed at how many African Americans don't know how to swim. It is one thing not to swim but not knowing - that blew me away. For me, as a kid, swimming was a big part of my life whether in a pool, beach, rivers, whatever and all kinds of water sports (I guess it is just part of 'white culture') . And I probably learned to swim at a very young age because I don't even remember learning. I did not know one kid or parent that did not or could not swim.

And another thing about water sports is that the sun intensifies when it reflects of the surface of water and if you are constantly in chlorinated water I am sure that aint good for your dermis.
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