Time for Florida to legalize Marijuana! The economic benefit would be awesome! (Wal-mart, sell)
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The real reason Scott didn't want this on the ballot has nothing to do with Pot/the medical need. It was all related to politics. When pot is on the ballot, it brings out more young voters and more free spirits. Since they are already in the voting booth, they'll also vote the rest of the ballot. This means a higher percentage democratic votes for FL governor in 'Q-tip' vs 'the Alien' race (Crist vs Scott).
This is why Morgan and Morgan was behind adding it to the ballot and it's also why Scott/cohorts filed the lawsuit against putting pot on the ballot. It's 100% politics, each side knowing that this issue will bring a higher democratic turnout to the polls.
What does pot on the ballot mean? It means "Q-tip is gonna be in" and "the Alien" is gonna be out. Q-tip knows it, the Alien knows it, and so do all the political campaigners.
I cannot believe that there are still people in this country that actually believe this.
there are peiple addicted to pot--
because people can get addicted to anything! like cell phones/ gamers ??... so it may be not like the alcohol, but emotional maybe? I am not an expert... but have in my long life seen addiction to pot- sorry to say.
I find it interesting that many people think that those that smoke marijuana are high time. That's just like saying people who drink alcohol are drunk all the time.
Many people have a drink at the end of the day or drink on the weekends. I would imagine many people who smoke pot do the same. Having a beer after work or letting loose on the weekends does not make you an alcoholic. Those who choose to smoke a joint after work or on the weekends are not pot heads... or are they?
I think the effects are different for diff people, just like eating a chip... some become obese some can eat 3 n move on with the salad.
the mis use--- the kids
John Morgan on Sunday, September 22nd, 2013 in Bay News 9 show, “Political Connections”
High-profile Orlando attorney John Morgan is leading an effort in Florida to legalize medical marijuana, arguing that the drug is safer and cheaper than other painkillers.
As a recent guest on Bay News 9’s Political Connections, Morgan also discussed whether marijuana is addictive.
"Nobody's addicted to it," Morgan claimed.
We decided to fact-check Morgan’s claim based on input from readers. But we didn’t have to dig too far. Morgan told us he was wrong.
"It was a huge mistake," said Morgan. "I’m sorry and embarrassed I messed up."
Morgan said he was "flat out wrong" about marijuana not being addictive and meant to focus on the use of the drug compared to more potent painkillers.
"Some levels of addiction kill you -- marijuana may make you slow, but it will never kill you," said Morgan, a personal injury attorney who is leading the group People United for Medical Marijuana. The group has launched a petition drive to add an amendment to the state’s Constitution to legalize medical marijuana in 2014.
Even though Morgan said he made a mistake, we were curious enough to check a few more sources.
Aaron Norton, a psychotherapist who specializes in addictive disorders, said that "cannabis dependence is a diagnosable disorder."
"Not everyone who uses it becomes addicted," said Norton, but some are more vulnerable, including people with mental disorders, adolescents and young adults.
"In the course of my career, I have probably treated hundreds of patients who are cannabis-dependent, and many of them also met the two diagnostic criteria associated with physiological dependence -- tolerance and withdrawal," Norton said.
Marijuana abuse is recognized as cannabis-use disorder in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. The manual’s list of symptoms include craving; taking larger doses over a longer period of time than intended; recurrent use that results in failure to fulfill major obligations at work, school or home; and tolerance (needing more to get the desired high).
It’s also described as an addictive substance by the government-funded National Institute on Drug Abuse, which writes: "Estimates from research suggest that about 9 percent of users become addicted to marijuana; this number increases among those who start young (to about 17 percent, or 1 in 6) and among daily users (to 25-50 percent)."
Psychiatrist Dr. Darren Rothschild, an addiction medicine specialist, says he’s worked with patients who have developed a serious dependence on marijuana and "the impact is substantial."
"In order to feel normal, they have to have the drug," Rothschild said. "Not everyone who smokes becomes addicted, but it’s erroneous to say it doesn’t happen."
Rothschild said people who smoke marijuana daily over a long period of time are the ones most susceptible to dependence on marijuana versus intermittent smokers who may occasionally smoke pot at a party. "I’d say none of those people are addicted."
Dr. Samir Sabbag, assistant professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine, Division of Alcohol and Drug Abuse Treatment and Research, said "long-term use of marijuana is indeed addictive," though he noted people can be addicted to a variety of things, including the caffeine in chocolate and coffee.
Even groups that support relaxing marijuana laws, such as the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), concede that Morgan was incorrect to say that marijuana is not potentially addictive.
"Can people have an abusive relationship with marijuana? Absolutely," said NORML executive director Allen St. Pierre. But St. Pierre says marijuana is "not addictive in any way shape or form the same way that alcohol, nicotine and other legal and illegal drugs, even caffeine, can cause serious withdrawal."
Our ruling
Orlando attorney John Morgan said that "nobody’s addicted to" marijuana. Morgan quickly admitted that he was wrong, and experts agreed.
John Morgan on Sunday, September 22nd, 2013 in Bay News 9 show, “Political Connections”
High-profile Orlando attorney John Morgan is leading an effort in Florida to legalize medical marijuana, arguing that the drug is safer and cheaper than other painkillers.
As a recent guest on Bay News 9’s Political Connections, Morgan also discussed whether marijuana is addictive.
"Nobody's addicted to it," Morgan claimed.
We decided to fact-check Morgan’s claim based on input from readers. But we didn’t have to dig too far. Morgan told us he was wrong.
"It was a huge mistake," said Morgan. "I’m sorry and embarrassed I messed up."
Morgan said he was "flat out wrong" about marijuana not being addictive and meant to focus on the use of the drug compared to more potent painkillers.
"Some levels of addiction kill you -- marijuana may make you slow, but it will never kill you," said Morgan, a personal injury attorney who is leading the group People United for Medical Marijuana. The group has launched a petition drive to add an amendment to the state’s Constitution to legalize medical marijuana in 2014.
Even though Morgan said he made a mistake, we were curious enough to check a few more sources.
Aaron Norton, a psychotherapist who specializes in addictive disorders, said that "cannabis dependence is a diagnosable disorder."
"Not everyone who uses it becomes addicted," said Norton, but some are more vulnerable, including people with mental disorders, adolescents and young adults.
"In the course of my career, I have probably treated hundreds of patients who are cannabis-dependent, and many of them also met the two diagnostic criteria associated with physiological dependence -- tolerance and withdrawal," Norton said.
Marijuana abuse is recognized as cannabis-use disorder in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. The manual’s list of symptoms include craving; taking larger doses over a longer period of time than intended; recurrent use that results in failure to fulfill major obligations at work, school or home; and tolerance (needing more to get the desired high).
It’s also described as an addictive substance by the government-funded National Institute on Drug Abuse, which writes: "Estimates from research suggest that about 9 percent of users become addicted to marijuana; this number increases among those who start young (to about 17 percent, or 1 in 6) and among daily users (to 25-50 percent)."
Psychiatrist Dr. Darren Rothschild, an addiction medicine specialist, says he’s worked with patients who have developed a serious dependence on marijuana and "the impact is substantial."
"In order to feel normal, they have to have the drug," Rothschild said. "Not everyone who smokes becomes addicted, but it’s erroneous to say it doesn’t happen."
Rothschild said people who smoke marijuana daily over a long period of time are the ones most susceptible to dependence on marijuana versus intermittent smokers who may occasionally smoke pot at a party. "I’d say none of those people are addicted."
Dr. Samir Sabbag, assistant professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the University of Miami Miller School of Medicine, Division of Alcohol and Drug Abuse Treatment and Research, said "long-term use of marijuana is indeed addictive," though he noted people can be addicted to a variety of things, including the caffeine in chocolate and coffee.
Even groups that support relaxing marijuana laws, such as the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML), concede that Morgan was incorrect to say that marijuana is not potentially addictive.
"Can people have an abusive relationship with marijuana? Absolutely," said NORML executive director Allen St. Pierre. But St. Pierre says marijuana is "not addictive in any way shape or form the same way that alcohol, nicotine and other legal and illegal drugs, even caffeine, can cause serious withdrawal."
Our ruling
Orlando attorney John Morgan said that "nobody’s addicted to" marijuana. Morgan quickly admitted that he was wrong, and experts agreed.
The economic benefit of cigarettes and booze has proved to be "awesome".....do we really want to suck more money out of human weakness? Just think in 20 years with legalized pot we will have some chronic users with health and mental problems we can not even imagine yet.
Originally Posted by vaughnwilliams
You'll get no argument from me, but it'll never happen-there's a multi-billion dollar industry in the arresting, prosecuting and incarcerating drug users that would suffer if it were legalized.
The economic benefit of cigarettes and booze has proved to be "awesome".....do we really want to suck more money out of human weakness? Just think in 20 years with legalized pot we will have some chronic users with health and mental problems we can not even imagine yet.
that's my position on all of this - but you have to look at The Netherlands to learn what they've experienced in all of this - notworthy is that HIV has decreased with the legalization. Evidently it has reduced needlesharing drug use.
The real reason Scott didn't want this on the ballot has nothing to do with Pot/the medical need. It was all related to politics. When pot is on the ballot, it brings out more young voters and more free spirits. Since they are already in the voting booth, they'll also vote the rest of the ballot. This means a higher percentage democratic votes for FL governor in 'Q-tip' vs 'the Alien' race (Crist vs Scott).
This is why Morgan and Morgan was behind adding it to the ballot and it's also why Scott/cohorts filed the lawsuit against putting pot on the ballot. It's 100% politics, each side knowing that this issue will bring a higher democratic turnout to the polls.
What does pot on the ballot mean? It means "Q-tip is gonna be in" and "the Alien" is gonna be out. Q-tip knows it, the Alien knows it, and so do all the political campaigners.
I've heard this argument before. It may hold water, it may not. I think it'll be a single-issue thing that will unite many different types of people. There are liberals who want higher taxes who will support this, and there will be libertarian-leaning people like myself who are fiscally conservative and will still support this.
I think Crist is a spineless turncoat opportunist and I would vote for Scott any day of the week out of principle before I vote for that slimiest of politicians. And I would also vote yes on this amendment.
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but emotional maybe? I am not an expert... but have in my long life seen addiction to pot- sorry to say.
