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Knoxville is kind of blah. It is perfectly fine, but doesn't really stand out anywhere. Outside of the university, it struggles with an identity IMO. The cost of living is excellent and outdoor recreation is great.
I've only been to Detroit a few times, but the suburbs are absolutely lovely. Keep in mind that crossing 8 Mile Road (dividing line on north side between city/suburbs) is a world of difference. Aside from some very poor areas here in Appalachia, I've never seen anything like some parts of Detroit.
Grand Rapids and the west coast of MI are beautiful. Winters suck with heavy lake effect snow, but the rest of the year, it is nearly a paradise.
I can admit I never pictured myself in or near Detroit.
I will happily look into Michigan in general, sounds like it could be a good fit
I can admit I never pictured myself in or near Detroit.
I will happily look into Michigan in general, sounds like it could be a good fit
The west side is especially beautiful, but there is only one significant city (Grand Rapids). The West coast of Michigan has the prettiest beaches you will find, and singing sand too!, but you can only go in the water a few months of the year The UP is also amazingly beautiful, but it takes a different kind of person to be a Youper.
The west side is especially beautiful, but there is only one significant city (Grand Rapids). The West coast of Michigan has the prettiest beaches you will find, and singing sand too!, but you can only go in the water a few months of the year The UP is also amazingly beautiful, but it takes a different kind of person to be a Youper.
My wife and I both enjoy paddle boarding, what months would the water be warm enough to do so?
My wife and I both enjoy paddle boarding, what months would the water be warm enough to do so?
Mid-May - Mid-September, without a wet suit. Obviously, a wet suit will extend the season a bit. Michigan has a ton of inland lakes, many with public boat ramps (where you can park your car).
Mid-May - Mid-September, without a wet suit. Obviously, a wet suit will extend the season a bit. Michigan has a ton of inland lakes, many with public boat ramps (where you can park your car).
Denver would seem to be an area that would work for you.
We have thought about Colorado. However, is Colorado/Denver pretty liberal, like "elite liberals"? Normal amounts of liberal is okay, just not overbearing
We drove through Salt Lake City on the way to California during February and areas around it with mountains & snow were pretty. Isn't there a high population of Mormons in this area? If so, would that create any kind of issue?
My husband travels to SLC a lot for work and it can be a problem if you're not Mormon. They won't be rude to your face, but they won't include you or your future kids in anything.
I second North Carolina! Good weather, people with values, mountains and the ocean! We almost moved there from Illinois, but ended up in Indiana due to family To weigh in on Michigan, I would consider NW Indiana before Michigan. You would still have the Lake and Dunes to go to PLUS only 40 miles away from downtown Chicago with it's nightlife, theaters, museums, concerts, etc. Valporaiso, Crown Point and St. John would be towns in Indiana to consider! Cost of living and taxes overall are low!
You also definitely want to research areas with good schools if you plan on having kids in a few years.
My husband travels to SLC a lot for work and it can be a problem if you're not Mormon. They won't be rude to your face, but they won't include you or your future kids in anything.
I second North Carolina! Good weather, people with values, mountains and the ocean! We almost moved there from Illinois, but ended up in Indiana due to family To weigh in on Michigan, I would consider NW Indiana before Michigan. You would still have the Lake and Dunes to go to PLUS only 40 miles away from downtown Chicago with it's nightlife, theaters, museums, concerts, etc. Valporaiso, Crown Point and St. John would be towns in Indiana to consider! Cost of living and taxes overall are low!
You also definitely want to research areas with good schools if you plan on having kids in a few years.
Thanks for the input. North Carolina was the leading candidate before even creating this thread (besides back home to Louisville).
Which part of Indiana did you end up in?
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To weigh in on Michigan, I would consider NW Indiana before Michigan. You would still have the Lake and Dunes to go to PLUS only 40 miles away from downtown Chicago with it's nightlife, theaters, museums, concerts, etc. Valporaiso, Crown Point and St. John would be towns in Indiana to consider! Cost of living and taxes overall are low! 