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Old 10-21-2010, 01:08 PM
 
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The bolded part of this quote is discussing Ozarkian speech patterns and dialects. I remember the thread it was taken from.
It has NOTHING to do with the subject we are discussing, and is another attempt at deflection.
We are not discussing Ozarkian speech patterns and dialect, fascinating as it is, we are discussing STL and Mississippi Hills regional accents.........other side of the state.
Which has a very similiar accent.

 
Old 10-21-2010, 01:17 PM
 
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here you can listen to barb geisman, director of development for the city of st. louis. she has a hardcore st. louis city dialect. note: the man posing the question is an outstate legislator from rural missouri with a more southern accent and he did not pronounce her name correctly:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7673...eature=related
'Talkin', 'Awl' (All) ('Waay') Way, 'Cuttin', 'Awfus' (Office).

But she also does have the Northern Vowel Shift (in part on her 'A's.

Her cadence in the last 1/4th of her report also slides into a bit of a drawl.

So, it's a mixed (Upper South- Midwest) accent.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 01:18 PM
 
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not surprisingly, geechie north is wrong again. the ozark dialect is to the st. louis dialect as the kansas dialect is to the milwaukee dialect. in other words, they aren't similar at all.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 01:18 PM
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xENxyxRQaw4



Here's a Chicago accent, fyi.

Note how different the cadence (more brittle) is from John Goodman.

He 'slurs' (description by a co-worker) his words, as (so I'm told) do I.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 01:20 PM
 
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^hmm. well people in philadelphia (where i'm from) say cuttin' and hittin' etc. does philadelphia have a southern dialect? if you really think chicagoans don't say $h*t like that, you're really not payin' attention. you're really just a troll with absolutely no credibility whatsoever. you are no linguist.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 01:22 PM
 
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Which has a very similiar accent.
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Originally Posted by slengel View Post
geechie is an admitted native southerner; i think he hears what he wants to hear. his selective perception is in the minority.
There you go, sweet pea.
You've had I dont even know how many posters corroborate the ancedotal eveidence for you.
And still you insist you are correct, and everyone else is wrong, and you dont even live in Missouri, nor have you ever spent a great deal of time there.
If you think an Ozarkian accent is similar to a STL accent, well, I have some VERY cheap beachfront property to sell you, nevermind that little swamp over there.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 01:22 PM
 
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not surprisingly, geechie north is wrong again. the ozark dialect is to the st. louis dialect as the kansas dialect is to the milwaukee dialect. in other words, they aren't similar at all.
It's easy to lose track here, as so much is being introduced, but I was talking of the mythical 'ST Genevieve' accent, which is similar to the Ozark, but (probably to native ears) not the same.

Sure different that hizzonner's though.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 01:27 PM
 
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It's easy to lose track here, as so much is being introduced, but I was talking of the mythical 'ST Genevieve' accent, which is similar to the Ozark, but (probably to native ears) not the same.

Sure different that hizzonner's though.
Its not the "mythical" Sainte Genevieve accent, (get the spelling right, please! Sainte is a female Saint in French) Its the Mississippi Hills region accent, which sounds nothing like the Ozarkian dialect.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 01:29 PM
 
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Goodman Video (#1):

"Workin', 'Bein', 'Havin', 'Cawled'

Dropping an occasional 'ing' is not indicitive of anything, as it's common in many dialects; doing it on a repetitive basis signifiesa Southern (or Southern influenced) individual.

The cadence in his sentence ''We got to rehearse......' is most telling.
 
Old 10-21-2010, 01:31 PM
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLy1HF3Yf0o



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xENxyxRQaw4
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