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There is nothing exclusive or unique about Macy's. They acquired FEDERATED department stores and then subsequently began buying, closing and/or converting EVERY major hometown department store in America into the Macy's brand. Some of the greatest, most historic hometown department store chains in this country have been turned into Macy's and reduced to little more than glorified JC Pennys -- Rich's of Atlanta, Burdine's of Miami, Maison Blanche in New Orleans, Foley's in Dallas, Hudson's in Minneapolis and perhaps the most offensive and agregious Macy's takeover of all: Marshall-Fields in Chicago. MILLIONS OF AMERICANS 9myself included) refuse to shop at Macy's for what they have done to the retail fabric of this country.
Actually, Hudson's was in Detroit. They were acquired by Dayton's of Minneapolis about 15-20 years ago. Then Dayton-Hudson sold out to Marshall Field's of Chicago, which was subsequently acquired by Macy's. (Meanwhile, Dayton's spawned Target about 40 years ago, which broke off from Dayton's before they were sold, and which still headquartered in Minneapolis.)
Has Macy's thought about expanding into smaller markets ever? There are alot of small populations with no department stores or like just a Kohl's, and then have at least 10,000 population and over making close to $100,000 or at that much. I noticed Macy's is almost purely in lifestyle centers or regional malls. With a couple rare exceptions.
JCPenney's, Belks, and Dillards are in the strip mall format.
I am wondering what is the deal with Macy's? What is up with their company right now? I heard Macy's used to look for high population areas, but then seeing how Macy's is in some parts of Montana, Hawaii, and other under populated areas I think income is more important. I mean Macy's is in Hilo and there is hardly any population there.
Anyways, I think Macy's is a great store. It's one of the desirable chain stores I like.
But how do they end up in undesirable cities and yet also appear in desirable cities?
They bought out everyone. There aren't many regional department stores left these days.
It really doesn't have anything to do with income. People from the country clubs and exclusive gated communities to the hood all over the country where stuff like Polo Ralph Lauren. Macy's and Polo go hand in hand. Some things are just classically American. Polo and Macy's are some of those classically American things that are accepted in most places in America. Everyone from a farmer might have an old Polo shirt to kids in the ghetto wanting to wear the freshest clothes. Polo is like Nike, it was and is fashionable and wearable for all demographics of people.
Macy's is also the sole distributor for Tommy Hilfiger. A few years back I read he had a deal with them where they were the only outlet for his clothing, other than discount stores that sell what Macy's was not able to sell.
Ha ha JCPenney's, Kohl's, and Sear's must be in the discount clothing department store tier.
I am trying hard right now to convince a developer to work with our city government to bring Macy's to our community.
There is going to be an upcoming city council meeting and I am going to make a powerful speech.
The city is willing to give incentives to Macy's. My question would be, how good of a deal do you need to get a company like Macy's? The city would draw about 80,000 population. Shoppers that live over the hill usually don't come to shop to our town.
Those stores have good quality, always have. Whether or not the clothing is fashionable is the real issue. Those stores tend to carry clothing that is more practical, basic and utilitarian, than what Macy's offers. When America itself was more practical, back in the 70s and 80s those stores were actually sought after destinations. By the 90s though they were dead in the water.
America's fascination with designer brands in the 90s effectively killed JC Penney's and Sears. Khols has a lot of sales and a lot of incentives, that are heavily advertised. You would be foolish to pay retail at Khols.
Macy's didn't kill that, American consumers did. With the advent of discount stores (primarily WalMart), most Americans threw downtown shopping areas under the bus for discount shopping in the 'burbs. When those downtown department stores failed Macy's moved in to take over many of them. Be thankful a decent store moved in, versus many locations that now sit empty.
Absolutely! This happened long before WalMart was popular though. I saw the signs as early as the mid 80s, at least in the Midwest, and few were thinking about WalMart back then.
Has Macy's thought about expanding into smaller markets ever? There are alot of small populations with no department stores or like just a Kohl's, and then have at least 10,000 population and over making close to $100,000 or at that much. I noticed Macy's is almost purely in lifestyle centers or regional malls. With a couple rare exceptions.
JCPenney's, Belks, and Dillards are in the strip mall format.
Most times Kohl's is sufficient for small towns of that size. Understand that a store like Target is a HUGE deal for towns that size, and is still a huge deal for people in major cities. Many towns of 50,000, depending on how cosmopolitan the residents are, will at least have a Target or a Kohl's. Again for those towns the stores are more than sufficient.
Another thing about smaller towns like that is that people have the money to buy the high end stuff but flat out refuse to. It just doesn't vibe with the culture in those towns, which is often more Abercrombie and Fitch, or Chaps and Polo Ralph Lauren is like a huge deal. Go to the inner city and you can find Polo Ralph Lauren at any discount store, a lot of "urban" stores that sell shoes and jeans also sell Polo Ralph Lauren.
Most times Kohl's is sufficient for small towns of that size. Understand that a store like Target is a HUGE deal for towns that size, and is still a huge deal for people in major cities. Many towns of 50,000, depending on how cosmopolitan the residents are, will at least have a Target or a Kohl's. Again for those towns the stores are more than sufficient.
Another thing about smaller towns like that is that people have the money to buy the high end stuff but flat out refuse to. It just doesn't vibe with the culture in those towns, which is often more Abercrombie and Fitch, or Chaps and Polo Ralph Lauren is like a huge deal. Go to the inner city and you can find Polo Ralph Lauren at any discount store, a lot of "urban" stores that sell shoes and jeans also sell Polo Ralph Lauren.
We have 30,000 population but 50,000 population including other town and 80,000 population within 20 minutes.
We have Wal-Mart, Target, Kohl's, OSH, and Lowe's. We also have Ross, JCPenney's at 40,000 sq. ft., Fashion Bug, and TJ Maxx. With plans for Costco down the road.
I'm sorry, but those stores don't wow me for clothing.
But there are other discounters that I do like Bloomingdale's Outlet, Nordstrom Rack, Loehman's, and Burlington Coat Factory.
Unfortunately, these stores only locate in larger populations. With the exception of Burlington Coat Factory.
Macy's bought out Meier & Frank in downtown Portland, in Tigard, and Hillsboro. I don't know how the stores are doing but I don't shop at any of them because I've never liked Macy's ~ they're way overpriced. I loved Meier & Frank, which was just as expensive but they had good sales often, and I still miss them.
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