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Old 10-16-2011, 10:14 AM
 
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This should be moved to the Ohio forum so the "experts" can all have a laugh.

 
Old 10-16-2011, 10:29 AM
 
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Ohio schools are average. However there are more colleges in the state per amount of people than any other state. [/quote]
False- Vermont has the most schools er person, then Massachusetts
 
Old 10-16-2011, 10:40 AM
 
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I dont know, New England is Super green and cloudy, so Ohio comes is 8th or 9th in that catagory.
Ya you are right. I would hardly call Ohio green. New England is way greener.

But when it comes to clouds cover surprisingly, Ohio ranks right up there with Vermont, Washington, Oregon, and Alaska without the natural beauty. That being said, Ohio is a sad sad place.
 
Old 10-16-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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Ya you are right. I would hardly call Ohio green. New England is way greener.

But when it comes to clouds cover surprisingly, Ohio ranks right up there with Vermont, Washington, Oregon, and Alaska without the natural beauty. That being said, Ohio is a sad sad place.
Ohio has natural beauty.
http://www.hockinghills.com/ash_cave.html

You obviously don't need mountains or the ocean to inspire everyone. More people live in Ohio and it is larger in terms of GDP than any New England state. And that's with seventy years of stagnation or decline. Lastly if you don't think Ohio is green you are sad.
 
Old 10-16-2011, 11:59 AM
 
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Ohio has natural beauty.
Ash Cave at Hocking Hills State Park

You obviously don't need mountains or the ocean to inspire everyone. More people live in Ohio and it is larger in terms of GDP than any New England state. And that's with seventy years of stagnation or decline. Lastly if you don't think Ohio is green you are sad.
Its Also Almost as Large as all the New England states combined, geographicly
 
Old 10-16-2011, 12:08 PM
 
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Its Also Almost as Large as all the New England states combined, geographicly
That's not true. Ohio is relatively small geographically. Maine is almost as big as Ohio.
 
Old 10-16-2011, 02:41 PM
 
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That's not true. Ohio is relatively small geographically. Maine is almost as big as Ohio.
Maine is Larger than the other 5 New England states combined
 
Old 10-16-2011, 02:59 PM
 
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Maine and Hawaii are the only states without Poisonous snakes
Alaska...
 
Old 10-16-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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Ohio is a state of contradictions. However it is well rounded in terms of everything. It is affordable. Outside of the PNW it is probably the cloudiest and most green state in the nation. Cleveland is a city that needs rebuilt from the ground up. Its not fair to compare it to other cities. Clevelanders hate Cincinnati. They don't consider it Ohio. They have an attitude. They are mostly northeastern immigrants. Cincinnati is mostly southern immigrants. Cincinnati is average, but not below average. Dayton is the true heart of Ohio. Akron is a good all around city. Columbus has the least character of Ohio cities, but it has Ohio State university which provides a lot of diversity.

Ohio cities are average in terms of diversity. I will gamble and say that Ohio is one of the most tolerant states in the country behind California. Ohio has had strong civil liberty roots dating back to slavery and the underground railroad. If you come to Ohio you will notice that every big city is about half black. Probably more black people than you have ever seen living in all different demographics. However there are not many other minorities in Ohio. All of Ohio's cities have real grit and grime. Ohio grown beefsteak and cherry tomato's are the best in North America. Toledo is the worst bigger city in Ohio. Ohio was and still may be the real backbone of the United States. It manufactured more and produced more steel, and helped build the nations major cities more than any other state. Ohio is easily the rustbelt capital.

Ohio cities do not have a lot in terms of nightlife. They are average. Ohio is a flyover state. Despite what Clevelanders will say. Ohio actually has one of the lowest amounts of crime in terms of other states and its population. there are a ton of sex offenders in Ohio though. I think third behind California and Florida. Ohio was also hit hardest behind California and Florida for the housing bust. Neither of the Bush's that were president helped Ohio. Both left it to more decay. Ohio is truly the forgotten state of the nation. It has largely dilapidated since the 1950's. Ohio's five cities should be linked by highspeed rail but Florida got the government grant for it instead.

Ohio schools are average. However there are more colleges in the state per amount of people than any other state. Ohio has good roads that are maintained. You do not find dirt roads except for in southeast Ohio. Southeast Ohio is the prettiest part of the state but the least inhabited and also the poorest. Industry is ingrained into Ohioans. At one time the Dayton-Cincy corridor was the largest industrialized area in the entire world. Ohio used to be the fourth largest state. It has been on top and to the bottom. Ohio can be beautiful. Medicaid and welfare are bankrupting Ohio. There are currently major medicaid cuts being passed in Ohio. Ohio football has been the worst in the nation despite having the most nostalgic history of professional football in the entire nation. Dayton is the birthplace of the NFL. The old Cleveland Browns were the most dominant dynasty in professional football to this day. They truly are one of the most loyal and passionate football crowds.

Ohio maple syrup rivals that of the northeast. Whitetail deer are the most numerous and largest in the country in Ohio. A twenty-eight point buck was shot that weighed over 800 lbs. Ohioans killed all of the predators in the state by the year 1800. Black bears were extirpated and only recently have found a home again in southeast Ohio. there are no other large predators in Ohio so it is one of the most camping friendly states. there are no biting ants or venomous snakes to worry about. However there are tons of rabbits, possums, raccoons, and other smaller creatures in abundance. Lake Erie once had the highest density of Cougars and the United States and was nicknamed "lake of the cat." There is an animal preserve in eastern Ohio called "The Wilds" that is the largest animal preserve in North America. It is also the second home to Przewalski's Horse from Mongolia which is the only real wild horse in the world. there are also rhino's and many other large animals.

Pawpaws are a fruit that grows the best in Ohio. They are also the largest native fruit in North America. Edible foods in Ohio that grow naturally are grapes, carrots, onions, strawberries, blackberries, walnuts, apples, crabapples, mushrooms, pawpaws and I'm forgetting some. Ohio thunderstorms can be very fierce and on par with the worst anywhere. However only the western counties on the Ohio border are in the greater tornado alley range. Ohio has many interesting facts of largest or oldest or most prominent histories in the nation. Cedar Point is hands down the best theme park, and Kings island in Cincy is near the top also. Tigers are actually connected with Cincy because at one time the Cincinnati Zoo was one of the best in the world for its breeding programs. The Tiger was reestablished there and reintroduced to many of its former habitats.

Ohio rivers are ugly, drying up, dying, polluted and dead. They are the ugliest feature of Ohio's landscape. there are to many dams in Ohio that do not allow enough water through. The rivers are ugly brown. Cleveland and Dayton are the poorest of the larger cities in the country. Ohio has a lot of fat people and very homely looking people. Though most are easy to get along with. Ohio probably has more notable people for its size than any other state. Ohio schools are average to below average in general. Most are below average. Ohio is where the northeast, south, and midwest come together. It is the main state where regional differences converge into one. there is Cleveland which is northeastern, Cincy which is southern, Columbus which is midwestern, and then there is the valley and Great Lakes accents.

Ohio truly is a state of contradictions. Most Ohioans do not label things accept for in science. Stereotypes and labels are mostly unspoken and unnecessary. Ohioans feel rejected by the country and left behind since the fifties generation. There is a sense of brotherhood to Ohioans since they perceive they are forgotten by the nation. Ohio is not a cow state. It mostly grows corn and soy. Ohio has a lot of entry level jobs all over the state. Though it lacks higher level positions notable with most major cities. Cincinnati has home grown the second most fortune five hundred companies only to New York. However most have left and outsourced. Cleveland is NYC's little brother. The two are weirdly intertwined. The Cincinnati Reds are the first major league baseball team and home to the best team in history, the 1975-76 Reds. Ohioans love sports and alcohol to much.Ohio is not proactive or progressive anymore. A donkey could run for a political spot in Ohio and run the state. Ohio is boring for the most part.

There is a constant haze over Ohio's cities. Ohioans thrive when they move to other places. Ohio has the best natural grass in North America in spite of Kentucky's bluegrass. The largest fossilized cockroach was found in Ohio. It was a foot long. Ohio used to be part of an inland sea. I found out there are Italian lizards living in Cincinnati. Ohio has some of the best native America heritage in the country. There are mounds, notable native American figures, and some of the biggest Native American victories in North American history. However all the Native American tribes are extirpated from Ohio. NYC and LA have equal influences on the state. Ohio is behind in social services and mental health. Ohio is underrated and overrated. Ohio would thrive if taken care of better and its cities were rebuilt. It would pass Illinois and Pennsylvania in population again. Ohioans do not know how to fix the state and bring in new life. Ohioans want a world class city and a better future than it has been for many decades.

Ohio has as many churches, temples, and synagogues as any southern state. it is a very religious state. Though it is mostly Protestant and not Catholic like the northeast. Ohio is the only state with a special agreement with the nation of Israel. Ohio and Israel have a business arrangement to collaborate and create more opportunities for each region.

Ohio still has spirit but it is broken in many ways. After much neglect and decline it has almost lost its identity. It used to be a place of pioneered ideas, invention, dreams, and progressive thinking. Now it is a flyover state with no influence and it is losing political power. You can find pure America there and wholesome family living. You can find cities that feel like real American cities, not the newer fake stuff. All in all though it is a state of contradictions. Occasionally it bursts through and shines but most of the time it is fading away.

A little about me. I'm from Dayton, Ohio. I lived there half of my life and then moved to Tampa, Florida. I've been all over Ohio and Florida and inbetween. I will soon be moving out west. I realize that a lot of this is just an opinion and i hope you do too. I don't even know why i felt the need to write it except maybe it would give some insight for someone. please forgive my jumbled analysis and grammatical errors.
Great post and thread, although I disagree with some of what you said.

You are from Dayton, and please don't misunderstand, as I know you know Ohio from personal experience way better than I do.

But as someone who is not from there who has only visited, and I don't want to minimize whatever struggles the state is facing,

but I think the big 3 C-cities are a major exception to what you describe.

Akron, Toledo, Dayton, and absolutely Youngstown maybe seriously struggling the way you describe, but Cincy, C-Bus, and Cleveland do indeed have a critical mass of population and assets, that they are realizing that.

Cincy, is still a corporate giant with Proctor and Gamble, and MANY others. Columbus has an economy and population growth that is better than Chicago, Cleveland while struggling economically more so than the other two,
is exremely diverse, with many of the same ethnic neighborhoods that one might find in Chicago. And has seen its urban nieghborhoods become nightlife hotspots.

To suggest that Ohio ONLY offers wholesome family living, is nonsense. Maybe outside of the big 3 C-cities, but those cities themselves at least in certain specific aspects have very superlative qualities.

And in the cities themselves you have lots of religious diversity. All three have significant Jewish populations, and are probably majority catholic. Cleveland with Italian americans, eastern europeans, and hispanics (mostly puerto ricans, and cincinnati - well thats largely German catholics with some Irish, but you get the point. The big three Cs are very diverse.

I like your post, but the citizens of the three Cs should stand up and shout out that at least collectively the have everything and every counterpart that Chicago has.

I mean come on, Ohio is NOT Iowa!! (No offense to Iowans)
 
Old 10-16-2011, 04:23 PM
 
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I like your input Tex, well said. I didn't take my time writing it and it was definitely a rough draft. I was just bored and recently returned from Ohio.
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