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Oh please. Maryland, Delaware and Virginia are definitely in the South, although not nearly as deeply southern as say, Alabama. I would call them mildly southern states. Living in New York and Connecticut all my life, MD, DE and VA totally feel southern to me, as well as southern PA, even.
Heh. Just no. South-central PA is rural and on the conservative side, but that's where commonalities with the (stereotyped) South end.
Also, I've never understood how people can "feel" a culture, especially by passing through. The only way that statement makes remote sense is if you're judging by climate, which, of course, would make these areas more "Southern" than NY or CT by virtue of the fact that they are closer to the equator.
You can only discern the true culture of an area by having extended experiences.
Heh. Just no. South-central PA is rural and on the conservative side, but that's where commonalities with the (stereotyped) South end.
Also, I've never understood how people can "feel" a culture, especially by passing through. The only way that statement makes remote sense is if you're judging by climate, which, of course, would make these areas more "Southern" than NY or CT by virtue of the fact that they are closer to the equator.
You can only discern the true culture of an area by having extended experiences.
You know, the last 2 paragraphs of your post are sooooooo true.
I honestly think people confuse rural with southern.
Strange.
You know, the last 2 paragraphs of your post are sooooooo true.
I honestly think people confuse rural with southern.
Strange.
I agree, people confuse rural with southern. I live in south-central PA and it is no way southern. Nobody here would even begin to call themselves southern.
stlouisan, Just curious, as you are someone from St. Louis with an often cited "friend from upstate New York", why do you have such strong feelings about the north/south divide here on the east coast? For example I could care less where the north and south divided west of the Appalachians: I have friends in Kentucky and Missouri but whether Missouri is southern or northern never really occurred to me as an important question.
stlouisan, Just curious, as you are someone from St. Louis with an often cited "friend from upstate New York", why do you have such strong feelings about the north/south divide here on the east coast? For example I could care less where the north and south divided west of the Appalachians: I have friends in Kentucky and Missouri but whether Missouri is southern or northern never really occurred to me as an important question.
Its important to Missourians.
Other than that, I cant comment on the other questions in your post.
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Heh. Just no. South-central PA is rural and on the conservative side, but that's where commonalities with the (stereotyped) South end.
Also, I've never understood how people can "feel" a culture, especially by passing through. The only way that statement makes remote sense is if you're judging by climate, which, of course, would make these areas more "Southern" than NY or CT by virtue of the fact that they are closer to the equator.
You can only discern the true culture of an area by having extended experiences.
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Southern Maryland.
Southern - but Mid-Atlantic if such an option was available.
Central Pennsylvania
Northern.
I see the Maryland southern thing has bled into here. The nearly unanimous agreement both at home in Maryland and here in Pennsylvania, is that Maryland, Delaware, and Virginia are the Mid-Atlantic.
Northern virginia I could agree to, but having been to Virginia myself, I can tell you that Northern Virginia is like the bootheel of Missouri...very different from the rest of the state...D.C. and Richmond are virtual polar opposites. Most of Maryland is more like pennsylvania and delaware than like virginia culturally and linguistically.
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stlouisan, Just curious, as you are someone from St. Louis with an often cited "friend from upstate New York", why do you have such strong feelings about the north/south divide here on the east coast? For example I could care less where the north and south divided west of the Appalachians: I have friends in Kentucky and Missouri but whether Missouri is southern or northern never really occurred to me as an important question.
Because I am interested in this country as a whole, not just where I live, I have relatives in D.C. and Baltimore, so I actually am interested for that reason having personally visited this area many times. Not to mention, all the research I've done for my area has inadvertently provided me with info about the east coast. I know both of these areas pretty well.
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