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Old 05-01-2020, 06:36 AM
 
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1) Pizza isn't American

2) Stop it with this insulting picture of American food. Think about Gumbo, Jambalaya, Collard Greens, Shrimp and Grits, Red Beans and Rice, Ribs, New York Strip Steak, Eggs Benedict, Chili Con Carne or Green and Red Chile before "Hot Dogs/Hamburgers".
There is nothing wrong with hamburgers. They are one of the best foods ever invented, and have gained widespread popularity in many other countries.
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Old 05-01-2020, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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There is nothing wrong with hamburgers. They are one of the best foods ever invented, and have gained widespread popularity in many other countries.
People talk about hamburgers like there is something wrong with them, and when they're held up as the only example of "American food", it's frustrating.
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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New England? Very Strong
Mid Atlantic? Strong
Midwest? Medium
Southeast? Medium
Southwest? Little
West? Little

I was raised in a metro with towns called Braintree, Weymouth, Plymouth, Boston, Concord, Cambridge, Wilmington, Manchester, Acton, Andover, Amesbury, Abington, Avon, Bedford, Falmouth, Essex, Gloucester, Chester, Chelsea, Ipswich, Reading, Carsile, Bridgewater, Kingston, Duxbury, Mansfield, Chesterfield, Woburn, Worcester, Raynham, Medford, Dorchester, Hngham, Hull, Windsor, etc.... its very Birtish for town names and places. Influence is high.
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:13 AM
 
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New England? Very Strong
Mid Atlantic? Strong
Midwest? Medium
Southeast? Medium
Southwest? Little
West? Little

I was raised in a metro with towns called Braintree, Weymouth, Plymouth, Boston, Concord, Cambridge, Wilmington, Manchester, Acton, Andover, Amesbury, Abington, Avon, Bedford, Falmouth, Essex, Gloucester, Chester, Chelsea, Ipswich, Reading, Carsile, Bridgewater, Kingston, Duxbury, Mansfield, Chesterfield, Woburn, Worcester, Raynham, Medford, Dorchester, Hngham, Hull, Windsor, etc.... its very Birtish for town names and places. Influence is high.
But how "British" is the modern culture?
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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New England? Very Strong
Mid Atlantic? Strong
Midwest? Medium
Southeast? Medium
Southwest? Little
West? Little

I was raised in a metro with towns called Braintree, Weymouth, Plymouth, Boston, Concord, Cambridge, Wilmington, Manchester, Acton, Andover, Amesbury, Abington, Avon, Bedford, Falmouth, Essex, Gloucester, Chester, Chelsea, Ipswich, Reading, Carsile, Bridgewater, Kingston, Duxbury, Mansfield, Chesterfield, Woburn, Worcester, Raynham, Medford, Dorchester, Hngham, Hull, Windsor, etc.... its very Birtish for town names and places. Influence is high.
the influence is not very strong. its just the names of places named 400 years ago. Probably more Irish or Italian influence than British at this point...

All the Mid atlantic places have British names too..e.g. 'Baltimore' after Lord Baltimore...
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Old 05-01-2020, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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the influence is not very strong. its just the names of places named 400 years ago. Probably more Irish or Italian influence than British at this point...

All the Mid atlantic places have British names too..e.g. 'Baltimore' after Lord Baltimore...
Culture changes every 20-30 years. Im thinking pure naming/influence on the land area. You cant really say on a different level since demographics are constantly evolving.
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Old 05-01-2020, 12:15 PM
 
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Culture changes every 20-30 years. Im thinking pure naming/influence on the land area. You cant really say on a different level since demographics are constantly evolving.
Honestly, nothing about the US is particular similar to any European culture anymore. Not enough recent European immigrants.

You can find Europeanness if you go back far enough. For instance, the dominant style of American beer (American Adjunct style Lager) is derived from Czech and German pilsner, but is still considerably different as it is brewed with rice and corn.
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Old 05-01-2020, 12:54 PM
 
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Honestly, nothing about the US is particular similar to any European culture anymore. Not enough recent European immigrants.

You can find Europeanness if you go back far enough. For instance, the dominant style of American beer (American Adjunct style Lager) is derived from Czech and German pilsner, but is still considerably different as it is brewed with rice and corn.
Nothing is European? Nothing?
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Old 05-01-2020, 05:21 PM
 
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Nothing is European? Nothing?
It's not "'European" it's American. Sure, you can trace some influences back to European countries, but there are unique cultural mixes and environmental factors that influenced American culture. Again, how can you argue that American cultural products like Skyscraper architecture, Jazz, Creole cuisine, Basketball, Modern/Hip-Hop dance, street style/contemporary fashion, and modern innovation such as smartphones and the personal computer or much of space technology, etc, are actually the product of "European influence" and are therefore just products of "European culture"? That's not at all correct. These are products of the cultural interactions that the environment of the United States provided, not Europe.

The US has quite a strong cultural identity apart from Europe. To such an extent that American culture has influenced Europe. Like...it's obvious that America has a strong identity of it's own at this point that countries like Australia and New Zealand don't have as much of, largely because they were entirely under British cultural influence until much more recently, and then fell under American cultural hegemony.

That's absolutely not me saying that these countries "don't have a culture", like a lot of Europeans like to say, because I don't believe it's possible for a nation not to - but their cultural identities aren't as distinct, nor as globally popular, as American culture, or cultural elements.
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Old 05-01-2020, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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1) Pizza isn't American

2) Stop it with this insulting picture of American food. Think about Gumbo, Jambalaya, Collard Greens, Shrimp and Grits, Red Beans and Rice, Ribs, New York Strip Steak, Eggs Benedict, Chili Con Carne or Green and Red Chile before "Hot Dogs/Hamburgers".

Lol, are you kidding? Pizza actually definitely has its roots in America (that is, the kind of pizza you likely eat whenever you eat pizza), and yes, you go to Anytown, U.S.A., you're going to see a pizza place.

You clearly have no idea of what foreigners deem "American" food. Hamburger is the first thing they think of, PERIOD. Jampalaya? You have to be kidding me.

Go to any restaurant in the U.S., and you are far more likely to see Pizza, a Hamburger, or Hot Dog on the menu *LONG* before Jamablaya, "Shrimp and Grits", or Eggs Benedict. In fact, the only place these are a normalcy is in the Gulf Coast region.

I agree Steak can definitely be seen as an American food too. My point was, British food is very minor in terms of American influence. Fish and chips is in fact quite a rarity to find today. And most of what you listed off, are NOT British foods.

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