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Old 08-25-2013, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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With a net outmigration rate more than double that of the most slagged and most maligned region, I'd say the figure of speech isn't a hyperbole.
I think it is. The net outmigration rate is more than double of what?
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:24 PM
 
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I think it is. The net outmigration rate is more than double of what?
The Midwest.

All three regions are losing Americans to the South.

The West only managed to even out the net migration figure because of the Mexican illegals LOL. If the Northeast shared a border down South, it would also have even-ed it out.
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Old 08-25-2013, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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The Midwest.

All three regions are losing Americans to the South.

The West only managed to even out the net migration figure because of the Mexican illegals LOL. If the Northeast shared a border down South, it would also have even-ed it out.
The articles are referring to domestic migration from one state to another. "Mexican illegals" do not factor in to migration from one state to another.
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:00 PM
 
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The articles are referring to domestic migration from one state to another. "Mexican illegals" do not factor in to migration from one state to another.
Oh you're right. I did a double take there when I saw your post because of what I know of what's been happening to CA for such a long time. Then I went back to the file and read, Pacific West -4.1. It's Mountain West that gained 11.6 that saved the West figures! Haha. I don't know why but I find it really funny. Americans are fleeing the coasts and moving inland. How sad. Could the Mountain numbers come from people leaving the Pacific West? Or must the numbers be from other regions?

Edit: Just did the Math. The Mountain numbers come from people leaving the Pacific West also. So the Mexicans are coming in to CA, and Americans are moving to the Mountain West. That's how the West had a net inmigration rate of 0.1 between 1990 to 2000. The people leaving the Pacific West in that time period is as high a rate as the people moving to the South.
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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Table 3 is interesting. I didnt know until now.

The worst net outmigration among Americans out of metropolitan areas are San Francisco -14.7, New York -11.4 and Boston -9.5 and Los Angeles -9.3. These figures are significantly worse than Detroit's outmigration numbers and we all know Detroit -6.0 was supposed to have begun emptying way before 2004.

The real truth is Americans have been leaving the cities that are supposed to be most "glamorous" in the minds of average Americans. Why is that? This is interesting. Because talking to people day to day certainly doesn't give you this impression.
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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You're using stats from 14-24 years ago? 24 years is almost a quarter century!
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Old 08-25-2013, 04:31 PM
 
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TX has been rich for a long time, they're rich enough that most of the time they're shielded from the undercurrents of what goes on with the rest of the economy. What do you think gives them the balls to always say they want to secede?. TX shares the honor with CA as the state with the highest number of Fortune 500 companies in the US. It just became more popular to relocate to in recent years because of low tax rates and the South going through some sort of Renaissance.

TX cities considered 'hip' now and received many transplants.. are Austin, San Antonio. Dallas grew a lot and many of the residents are transplants but nobody thinks it's hip.

Houston has been high-profile for a long time. NASA anybody?
Balls try stupidly as a Texan the secede notion is just ridiculous. I live in SA there are three large military bases in the metro area if the Federal govt. pulled out the economy would take a big hit as would many other areas of Texas It’s all false bravado, were Americans first, and I certainly don’t bash or hate the Midwest and have been there many times.
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:23 PM
 
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TX was it's own republic once. It didn't quite work out. I don't think they will really try that again.
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Old 08-25-2013, 09:42 PM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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TX was it's own republic once. It didn't quite work out. I don't think they will really try that again.
However keep in mind there was a big difference between the Texas of the 1840s, a isolated state with a relatively small frontier population in constant danger from Mexico & the Comanches and the Texas of today, a wealthy energy rich state with the second largest population in the USA and a land area the size of France.
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Old 08-25-2013, 09:53 PM
 
Location: District of Columbia
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So a Texas army vs the US army? Does Texas have a Navy too not sure? Seccession talks always kill me. We are considered the "United States" for a reason. We all get Texas is big but seriously I don't get it? Seems like it would be pretty easy to bring it to its knees. Blockade Houston, and other major highways ie I-20, I-35 (etc...), Control there airspace, invade by land, offer amnesty to the non-rebellious populace, and occupy and control the oil. Sell the rights to US Patriots only (let "big oil" determine if they want to be Texans, or US citizens at crunch time). We have all seen this episode before, if we are talking absolutes vs hypotheticals?

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