Do certain ethnic groups make a place more Southern/Northeasern, etc? (move to, metro area)
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Doesn't seem like the profile of any particular region in the US. I'd place an ethnic profile like that in the Midwest (look at many Ohio cities) and in the South (like Nashville and Knoxville) over anything particularly Northeastern.
Heck, in Chicago, Italian and Irish make up a larger percentage of our pop. than they do in Baltimore:
Ancestries: Irish (6.6%), German (6.6%), Polish (5.4%), Italian (3.4%), United States (1.9%), English (1.9%)
Baltimore doesn't look too different than Columbus:
Ancestries: German (17.9%), Irish (10.6%), English (6.1%), Subsaharan African (4.6%), United States (4.0%), Italian(3.7%).
Not really seeing this "white ethnic" pattern of the Northeast in that particularly debated city.
Do you honestly believe that Columbus is only 4.6% sub-saharan African?
Yes, certain ethnic groups shape the identity of an area. For example, rural black Americans (American blacks, I am not talking about Latinos or African immigrants) are not characteristic of the Pacific Northwest. In many parts of the country American blacks are only found in cities and suburbs and are rarely if ever "country" folk living on farms and the like. Here are some maps showing the distribution of classic immigrant groups. They tend to be huddled in certain regions:
But Italians and Irish in Chicago don't sound like Italians and Irish in New York. Similarly, have you heard a NY Black person vs. a Southern Black person? Kinda different.
Likewise, Germans and Irish make up the largest ancestries in Baltimore, Chicago, and Columbus, and I would say that Chicago accents sound nothing like Baltimore accents. Maybe a bit like Columbus, but nothing like Baltimore.
The Native Americans, the Africans and the Dutch had a huge influence on
the American accents too, depending on which colony it was. Different types
of Europeans settled the north from the europeans who settled the south.
A lot of that has to do with why we speak so differently in different geographical
areas of the east.
The Native Americans, the Africans and the Dutch had a huge influence on
the American accents too, depending on which colony it was. Different types
of Europeans settled the north from the europeans who settled the south.
A lot of that has to do with why we speak so differently in different geographical
areas of the east.
Not seeing how having certain ethnic groups migrate to a region makes it more NE or S.
Maine has many French Americans. So do parts of Louisiana. And Michigan. Are these places Southern? Or all Northeastern? All Midwest?
Yes, certain ethnic groups shape the identity of an area. For example, rural black Americans (American blacks, I am not talking about Latinos or African immigrants) are not characteristic of the Pacific Northwest. In many parts of the country American blacks are only found in cities and suburbs and are rarely if ever "country" folk living on farms and the like. Here are some maps showing the distribution of classic immigrant groups. They tend to be huddled in certain regions:
Irish:
Greek:
Polish:
German:
Italian:
People identifying simply as "American":
You're proving my point in that no "one" region has a monopoly on these groups. Those maps just show exactly what I am saying.
My city is no more NE simply because of a lot of Polish people.
Not seeing how having certain ethnic groups migrate to a region makes it more NE or S.
Maine has many French Americans. So do parts of Louisiana. And Michigan. Are these places Southern? Or all Northeastern? All Midwest?
There are no other places in the usa that I know of with concentrated Dutch influence like downstate New York, Southern New England, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Delaware.
Louisiana and all those other French states besides Maine are all surrounded by or at least next to southern states.
The racial makeup of the city was 61.5% White, 28.0% African American, 0.3% Native American, 4.1% Asian, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 2.9% from other races, and 3.3% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 5.6% of the population.
C'mon Eddie, Columbus Ohio isn't 4.6% sub-Saharan African. Every major city in Ohio has a sizable black population. It would be extremely difficult to avoid blacks while walking or driving around Columbus.
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Originally Posted by EddieOlSkool
You're proving my point in that no "one" region has a monopoly on these groups. Those maps just show exactly what I am saying.
My city is no more NE simply because of a lot of Polish people.
It seems pretty clear that the Northeast tends has a disproportionate representation of certain groups (Irish, Italian, Greek) just like the Midwest has a very disproportionate presence of Polish and Germans. The difference is so stark that one can clearly see a sharp difference between the borders of Maryland and Virginia (and NOVA and ROV) on all of these maps. The border between these two states is practically outlined.
In short, a Greek presence is much more characteristic of a Northeastern city like Boston or Baltimore than a southern city like say, Memphis or Jacksonville. Just like a Polish presence is much more characteristic of the Midwest than the Southwest. We have all heard about the Poles of Chicago, and once you make your move to Baltimore you will no doubt hear about the Greeks and Greektown. We never hear about the Poles of Charleston or the Greeks of Richmond. And as another example, In Maryland, where you say you are moving to, it would be extremely odd to be inundated in Mexican culture; in California and much of the Southwest it is a way of life. So yes, certain ethnic groups are characteristic of particular regions.
I never knew Baltimore was known for having a large Greek population. Greeks make up only 0.6% of the population in the Baltimore metro. In Richmond, they make up 0.43%. In Charleston, it's 0.4%.
sub-Saharan African and African-American don't mean the same thing, hobbes.
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