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I can easily name a couple: Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, some might even argue Cleveland although I disagree with this. Louisville even to a degree doesn't fit in with the rest of Kentucky because of it's being Catholic and its demographics consisting of large numbers of German Americans. Your thoughts of cities that don't fit in with their respective states?
Personally, I think Chicago IS Illinois so of course it belongs. Detroit also is nearly synonymous with Michigan. Cities that come to mind are cities that are culturally and politically at odds with their states. These are the first ones I can think of.
Austin, Texas (belongs in the Pacific Northwest)
El Paso, Texas (belongs in New Mexico or Arizona)
Asheville, North Carolina (also Pacific Northwest)
Louisville, Kentucky (nothing like the rest of Kentucky)
Memphis, Tennessee (Culturally a part of Mississippi or Arkansas)
Kansas City, Kansas (More like Missouri than Kansas)
Personally, I think Chicago IS Illinois so of course it belongs. Detroit also is nearly synonymous with Michigan. Cities that come to mind are cities that are culturally and politically at odds with their states. These are the first ones I can think of.
Austin, Texas (belongs in the Pacific Northwest)
El Paso, Texas (belongs in New Mexico or Arizona)
Asheville, North Carolina (also Pacific Northwest)
Louisville, Kentucky (nothing like the rest of Kentucky)
Memphis, Tennessee (Culturally a part of Mississippi or Arkansas)
Kansas City, Kansas (More like Missouri than Kansas)
I disagree. Chicago is politically, culturally, and linguistically distinct from the rest of Illinois. I would put it more in with Southern Wisconsin than downstate Illinois. Detroit is more similar to Northern Ohio than to the rest of Michigan.
I disagree. Chicago is politically, culturally, and linguistically distinct from the rest of Illinois. I would put it more in with Southern Wisconsin than downstate Illinois. Detroit is more similar to Northern Ohio than to the rest of Michigan.
True, but Chicago is the dominant player in Illinois politics and culture. As goes Chicago, so goes the state. What I generally think of when I think of cities that don't fit with their state is situations like Austin. Austin is a liberal, funky, eclectic outpost of the Pacific Northwest in the heart of Texas. However, Austin doesn't come even close to dominating Texas politics and culture. In fact, most of Texas would not consider Austin to be true Texas culture.
Chicago on the other hand culturally dominates Illinois, even if it is very different from the rural downstate.
Personally, I think Chicago IS Illinois so of course it belongs. Detroit also is nearly synonymous with Michigan. Cities that come to mind are cities that are culturally and politically at odds with their states. These are the first ones I can think of.
Austin, Texas (belongs in the Pacific Northwest)
El Paso, Texas (belongs in New Mexico or Arizona)
Asheville, North Carolina (also Pacific Northwest)
Louisville, Kentucky (nothing like the rest of Kentucky)
Memphis, Tennessee (Culturally a part of Mississippi or Arkansas)
Kansas City, Kansas (More like Missouri than Kansas)
I can easily name a couple: Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, some might even argue Cleveland although I disagree with this. Louisville even to a degree doesn't fit in with the rest of Kentucky because of it's being Catholic and its demographics consisting of large numbers of German Americans. Your thoughts of cities that don't fit in with their respective states?
I would agree with St. Louis. Our mayor challenged the marriage equality issue with conservative Missouri and succeeded before the Supreme Court decision. Missouri wanted to join the ranks of "right to work" states but many in St. Louis took a stand. These are a few of the examples. Lets not get started on gun control and minimum wage. Where St. Louis belongs is a good question but clearly not in Missouri.
Atlanta is another example. Dallas doesn't exactly seem Texas to me until you look at all the huge arenas called churches. Miami definitely doesn't belong in Florida.
Last edited by mjtinmemphis; 02-09-2016 at 03:20 PM..
I would agree with St. Louis. Our mayor challenged the marriage equality issue with conservative Missouri and succeeded before the Supreme Court decision. Missouri wanted to join the ranks of "right to work" states but many in St. Louis took a stand. These are a few of the examples. Lets not get started on gun control and minimum wage. Where St. Louis belongs is a good question but clearly not in Missouri.
Atlanta is another example. Dallas doesn't exactly seem Texas to me until you look at all the huge arenas called churches. Miami definitely doesn't belong in Florida.
Yep, and STL's status as a Missouri misfit dates all the way back to its founding-- the city is older than the United States, founded as a French colony, then acquired by Spain, then back to France, before joining the US. And the city was so pro-Union during the Civil War that Missouri's Confederate-sympathizing government seized control of the city's police department that was only recently reversed. I wish St. Louis could secede.
Personally, I think Chicago IS Illinois so of course it belongs. Detroit also is nearly synonymous with Michigan. Cities that come to mind are cities that are culturally and politically at odds with their states. These are the first ones I can think of.
Austin, Texas (belongs in the Pacific Northwest)
El Paso, Texas (belongs in New Mexico or Arizona)
Asheville, North Carolina (also Pacific Northwest)
Louisville, Kentucky (nothing like the rest of Kentucky)
Memphis, Tennessee (Culturally a part of Mississippi or Arkansas)
Kansas City, Kansas (More like Missouri than Kansas)
Hahaha.
Austin is maybe the most Texan place in Texas. Right down to its silly self-aggrandizement and laughably earnest belief that it is unique or "weird".
There's an Austin in just about every state, Austin is just the Texas-sized version.
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