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I know that the SFV is not considered "LA" even though it is in the city limits (with the exception of Burbank and the city of San Fernando). "LA" generally only refers to the parts of the city in the LA Basin
Yeah I should have specified west of DTLA within the confines of the basin. Anything past that is the blanket "Valley."
Everywhere I've lived (Illinois, Texas, Massachusetts, Wisconsin, and Maryland) and in basically every location I have family, people call some location "the city," from rural to truly metropolitan and cosmopolitan.
Manhattan, it is well known, is referred to as "the City" in the outer boroughs and throughout metro NYC. San Francisco has long had a synonym, "The City", a term used for well over a century when Californians referred to San Francisco as "The City" (the Warriors, when they played in SF....where they are btw returning from Oakland) had "The City" on their jerseys.
And in Chicago, my home town, suburbanites refer to Chicago as "the city". I hardly hear anyone say "Chicago" for it. It's virtually always "I'm going into the city", rarely "I'm going into Chicago."
My question is, and I suppose the answer is "yes": is that true in any city? Do people refer to the main city in their metro area as "The City" except perhaps in places where it might not work: Dallas, Fort Worth, Minneapolis, St. Paul and the like.
When I lived up in the north shore suburb of Highland Park, everybody up there refer to it as downtown. It was confusing at first, because many of the suburbs have their own downtowns. I eventually learned, that when people said they were going downtown, that they meant downtown Chicago.
Pittsburgh uses the term "The City" meaning anywhere in the City of Pittsburgh proper. "Downtown" is used for the Central Business District. "Pittsburgh" is anywhere in Allegheny County., Some will try to even use "Pittsburgh" as a synonym for all of Western Pennsylvania.
I'm sorry if you live in an outer county you DO NOT live in Pittsburgh. You live in Pittsburgh Metro, Outside of Pittsburgh, Western PA, but you DO NOT live in Pittsburgh.
NYC - Inside NYC "The City" means Manhattan, Outside of the 5 Boroughs and "The City" means anywhere in NYC proper.
Philly - Center City and Downtown are used interchangeably among natives, transplants are strictly Center City. Outside Philadelphia, people either say Center City or Philly. Philly uses the term "City" to juxtapose "County", the term "County" is used for any of the collar counties that surround the city of Philadelphia.
No, people in the NYC suburbs also mean Manhattan when they say "the city".
Yes, in both St. Louis and Baltimore, "the City" quite literally refers to the independent core cities, and "the County" is pretty much a moniker for the suburbs.
*. And related to the two above, do the various
metro areas use (in spoken language) any of the Following: St. Petersburg, Indianapolis, Philadelphia?
Indianapolis is usually just referred to as Indy. I would say people here call it Indy a lot more than they call it Indianapolis just because it's so much easier. I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to Indy as "the city". I live and work in the suburbs of Indy and many of the suburbs have their own downtown area. But people refer to those by the name of the suburb. Downtown Speedway, downtown Carmel, downtown Zionsville. If anyone just says "downtown", they're almost always referring to downtown Indianapolis.
NYC - Inside NYC "The City" means Manhattan, Outside of the 5 Boroughs and "The City" means anywhere in NYC proper.
Wrong. Everyone on LI/NJ at least calls Manhattan the city, and if you are talking about something in any of the other boroughs you'd just say their name.
ex: "Is that restaurant you were talking about in the city?" "No, it's in Queens."
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