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True. Loudoun gets extremely remote once you get past the parts of the county closest to DC (Leesburg, Ashburn and Sterling).
Fauquier I don't consider part of NoVa, there's still large portions of the county that are undeveloped and culturally it's more similar to Fredericksburg or Stafford than Fairfax.
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Faquier, no because it's so rural. Loudon feels southern past Leesburg. I have heard some people describe Loudon as "sunbelt" Take that as you will. Fairfax definitely doesn't feel southern at all.
I didn't vote at all, but only the cities of Arlington and Alexandria, and Fairfax County are definitively part of the Northeast Corridor. I can see why someone would vote either way about NoVA.
How is St Louis Northern? It's known for BBQ and Blues. That's Southern
A lot of the state of Missouri does have a Southern flavor about it. Heck, even Mark Twain referred to Missouri as the South.
However, St. Louis, historically a transport and industrial hub, has far more of a Northern feel in terms of architecture, attitudes, culture and politics, with just a small hint of Southern influence, mainly brought by the African Americans during the migration from the South in the early 1900s.
In some ways, St. Louis feels more Eastern than Midwestern, too.
In a modern world that thinks binary (one extreme or the other), many times we have matters that are blends and mixtures (analog). If we really want to get clearer, we have to abandon the extremes and bring in those nuances that make all the difference.
I'm not sure how that would be tackled here, but in limiting the choices to extremes, we're only complicating the discussion. For example, two locations here called "north" may be nothing alike. And yet, both are north, and assumed to be similar.
A lot of the state of Missouri does have a Southern flavor about it. Heck, even Mark Twain referred to Missouri as the South.
However, St. Louis, historically a transport and industrial hub, has far more of a Northern feel in terms of architecture, attitudes, culture and politics, with just a small hint of Southern influence, mainly brought by the African Americans during the migration from the South in the early 1900s.
In some ways, St. Louis feels more Eastern than Midwestern, too.
Missouri was a Jim Crow State too.
Also "other than African Americans" is silly when the city is like 50% AA.
Why is Pittsburgh even mentioned as being Southern?
It's the de facto capital of Appalachia. If you think of West Virginia as Southern because of its Appalachian culture, then it's not a big logical jump to also see Pittsburgh as more culturally Southern.
Pittsburgh is also the closest big city to most of Pennsyltucky, as they call it.
Also "other than African Americans" is silly when the city is like 50% AA.
So was Connecticut but we would never think of them as Southern.
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