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Old 09-18-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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I don't know why people think Rust Belt cities don't have nice neighborhoods, public institutions, suburbs, parks, beaches, etc. Perhaps they don't understand what a "Rust Belt" city is? Rust belt cities are those which thrived in the old 20th century industrial belt of the US. Before industry left, there were lots of well-paying industrial jobs and strong unions making for a robust economy. The industrialists who came from these cities contributed heavily in the city's culture and public facilities (theaters, libraries, parks, etc.). Well paid management created a demand for good schools and pleasant neighborhoods for themselves. Just because many areas of these cities look like "dumps" doesn't mean these cities were always dumps. Even some of today's "dumpy" areas, the bones are still good.
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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I was surprised by how pleasant some parts of the Detroit metro area are. You hear Detroit and you don't necessarily have positive associations, but being there I realized that it's really not that different from a lot of American cities in that there's 'bad parts' but also a lot of nice stuff around it. Walking down a leafy street in Grosse Pointe and then taking your boat out onto the lake..it's nice, nicer than many places in far more hyped metro areas.



While it may not be remarkable that a rich area is nice, I mean it's the same everywhere isn't it? It's not like the poorest parts of L.A., Oakland or Palm Beach county are all that hot to be around either.

Completely agree. Detroit metro has the 13 largest economy in the country. I'm not at all surprised there are nice areas. Every city has nice, middle, and poor areas.
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:23 PM
 
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Some Ohio beaches



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2e9X1rkFEQ


Some Ohio Hiking



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOT2SgmNWEw





An Ohio Island - Put-In Bay




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvpK3stUjYo
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:42 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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I don't know why people think Rust Belt cities don't have nice neighborhoods, public institutions, suburbs, parks, beaches, etc. Perhaps they don't understand what a "Rust Belt" city is? Rust belt cities are those which thrived in the old 20th century industrial belt of the US. Before industry left, there were lots of well-paying industrial jobs and strong unions making for a robust economy. The industrialists who came from these cities contributed heavily in the city's culture and public facilities (theaters, libraries, parks, etc.). Well paid management created a demand for good schools and pleasant neighborhoods for themselves. Just because many areas of these cities look like "dumps" doesn't mean these cities were always dumps. Even some of today's "dumpy" areas, the bones are still good.
I'm not a big Detroit fan, having lived there years ago when the city was almost at its nadir. But even then, it was clear that the old money left some spectacular cultural monuments that few outside of metro Detroit knew existed.

The main branch of the public library is magnificent and can hold a candle to any library in the U.S.

https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/detr...rary-detroit-8

Same with the art museum, the Detroit Institute of the Arts

https://www.dia.org/about/press/media-kits/dia-exterior

https://www.dia.org/art/collection/dia-collection

Orchestra Hall is similarly wonderful

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestra_Hall_(Detroit)

And Bell Isle is a masterful design by Frederick Law Olmstead (who designed Central Park in NYC) sitting in a very cool setting in the Detroit River

https://www.google.com/search?q=Bell...w=1344&bih=736

A lot of these Rust Belt cities have problems like you wouldn't believe. But they also have some treasures that nobody outside them would really believe either.
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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Another such city with a couple of beaches: City of Rochester | Ontario Beach Park

City of Rochester | Durand Eastman Park and Beach
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Old 09-19-2018, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I live just a mile from beautiful Lakewood Park on Lake Erie. Edgewater beach just ten minutes away.

Lakefront properties along Lake Erie have been featured on HGTV in my area.
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:03 PM
 
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I live just a mile from beautiful Lakewood Park on Lake Erie. Edgewater beach just ten minutes away.

Lakefront properties along Lake Erie have been featured on HGTV in my area.

Nice! The great lakes are such a wonderful resource for recreation and water sports. Great for boating and water craft. I also like the historic light houses and maritime feel, similar to that of coastal regions.
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Old 09-20-2018, 06:58 AM
 
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Nice! The great lakes are such a wonderful resource for recreation and water sports. Great for boating and water craft. I also like the historic light houses and maritime feel, similar to that of coastal regions.
A similar type of place on Lake Ontario: https://soduspoint.info/
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2740...6!9m2!1b1!2i40


Another one: Oswego Lighthouse | Oswego New York
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4619...7i13312!8i6656
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Brew City
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Duluth, Minnesota is plopped in the midst of a massive pine forest on the shores of Lake Superior. It is (un)surprisingly active and outdoorsy for a rust belt city.
So Duluth's geographical location? Or that people don't realize it's a rust belt city at all?

For the record, I love Duluth.

The thing I wish people would realize is that "Rust Belt" is a term that describes certain cities in a region. Not every city in a region. Madison, WI is not a Rust Belt city. I wouldn't describe Columbus, OH as one either.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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So Duluth's geographical location? Or that people don't realize it's a rust belt city at all?

For the record, I love Duluth.

The thing I wish people would realize is that "Rust Belt" is a term that describes certain cities in a region. Not every city in a region. Madison, WI is not a Rust Belt city. I wouldn't describe Columbus, OH as one either.
While Duluth certainly has a strong connection to the Rust Belt (it's where most of the iron ore that went to the furnaces in Rust Belt cities Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Buffalo was shipped out of), I agree that Duluth is NOT a Rust Belt city.
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