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Old 10-05-2019, 08:19 PM
 
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This is pretty incredible.

We are definitely getting smoked by Canada. Kind of deflates the "but we don't have the density" rhetoric on this forum as Canada is one of the most sparsely populated places on earth.
Canadian cities in the last 20 years have really beefed up, tier 2 cities like Edmonton (recently building the tallest building in Canada outside Toronto) and Ottawa are building a lot and reaching new heights. Tier 3 like Victoria, Halifax and London have been in a building boom as well but height limits there mean they are not tall highrises.

here is the data from 2010 to 2020

Ottawa....43 Highrises
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86618048
Edmonton...30 Highrises
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86618050
Halifax....29 Highrises
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86618052
London....25 Highrises
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86618058
Victoria...19 Highrises
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86618063


And let's not forget about Canadian suburbs as well

Richmond.....62 highrises (Vancouver Suburb)
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86618138
Burnaby......51 highrises (Vancouver Suburb)
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86618068
Mississauga....43 highrises(Toronto Suburb)
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86618070
Laval.....37 Highrises (Montreal Suburb)
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86618186
Markham...37 Highrises (Toronto Suburb)
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86618073
Vaughan....26 Highrises (Toronto Suburb)
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86618075
Coquitlam...25 Highrises (Vancouver Suburb)
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86618080
Richmond Hill..19 Highrises (Toronto Suburb)
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86618082

Last edited by Trojan1982; 10-05-2019 at 08:37 PM..
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Old 10-05-2019, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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For midsized cities, Oakland had a very significant transformation over the past 10-12 years. Some of the worst drug corners in the state now house art galleries and reparatory theaters. The parts of West Oakland which were considered dead to the rest of the world now have yuppies rehabbing dilapidated Victorians and riding through the hood in their spandex bicycle shorts. Even houses in "Deep East" are going for $500k with no signs of slowing down any time soon.
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Old 10-06-2019, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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With all respect for American, except for New York, no city in the US has matched the following 3 Candian cities in the last 9 years for growth.

1. Toronto - Toronto continues to get enormous by adding 1.5 million to the region in the time frame and will have added over 550 highrises from 2010 to 2020
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86617032

2. Calgary - Calgary has really matured and solidified itself as English Canada's number 2 destination city after Toronto, sorry Vancouver. Calgary will also have added 85 Highrises between 2010 and 2020
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86617037

3. Montreal - Montreal has been growing consistently in size and has started to really boom in recent years, and will have added 135 Highrises between 2010 and 2020
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86617040

Honorable mentions
4. Vancouver Canada's only large west coast city continued its strong growth with over 150 highrises added from 2010 to 2020. it, however, is not number 2 because it did not transform as much as Calgary and Montreal
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86617045

the following are the highrise growth from 2010 to 2020 of the other cities i have seen discussed here

Miami..89 highrises
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86617048

Washington...68 highrises
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86617054

Austin...59 highrises
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86617056

Seattle....52 highrises
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86617073

Boston...50 highrises
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86617061

Atlanta....33 highrises
https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=86617064

the data for all these I got here

https://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?
Curious as to how you came to that conclusion?

If it's by tourism numbers, then I don't see it. Vancouver gets about 3 million more tourist visits than Calgary, PLUS you have to take into account that Tourism Calgary numbers include all visits within the city of Calgary which is 825 square kilometres, vs Tourism Vancouver numbers include all visits within the city of Vancouver, which is only 115 square kilometres, and doesn't include North Van, West Van, Richmond ( where many stay near the airport ), Burnaby and on and on.

EDIT: I just notice that your skyscraper link for Vancouver is missing Shangri-la which our tallest building at 201 metres, so it has me doubting the accuracy of all the links

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Old 10-06-2019, 06:14 PM
 
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Curious as to how you came to that conclusion?

If it's by tourism numbers, then I don't see it. Vancouver gets about 3 million more tourist visits than Calgary, PLUS you have to take into account that Tourism Calgary numbers include all visits within the city of Calgary which is 825 square kilometres, vs Tourism Vancouver numbers include all visits within the city of Vancouver, which is only 115 square kilometres, and doesn't include North Van, West Van, Richmond ( where many stay near the airport ), Burnaby and on and on.

EDIT: I just notice that your skyscraper link for Vancouver is missing Shangri-la which our tallest building at 201 metres, so it has me doubting the accuracy of all the links
I meant number 2 destination for English Canadians to move to.
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Old 10-07-2019, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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Well, how nice. Sorry, but I'm not impressed. Most of us here don't desire that sort of density, but I stand by my statement. The urbanization of the core here has been beyond impressive.


Atlanta has a about third of the City zoned for very large residential lots, including several square miles of multi-acre estates. We will never be as dense as other cities simply due to that, and I could care less. It's plenty urban where it needs to be.
Seems like you do care.
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Old 10-07-2019, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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This is pretty incredible.

We are definitely getting smoked by Canada. Kind of deflates the "but we don't have the density" rhetoric on this forum as Canada is one of the most sparsely populated places on earth.
Props to them, but we have way more cities to populate. Not a fair comparison.
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Old 10-07-2019, 11:14 AM
 
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Props to them, but we have way more cities to populate. Not a fair comparison.
well the us has a lot more people, I don't get your point.
what's stopping US suburbs from building skyscrapers as most Canadian suburbs around large cities are doing.
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Old 10-07-2019, 11:27 AM
 
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Detroit.

I'm not trying to take away anything from the other cities on the list. Good cases have been made for them.

However, Detroit's reputation has gone up significantly among area residents and nationally. People who want to keep showing the pictures of decayed buildings and acting like that's all there is in Detroit are significantly out of touch.

People are going to complain that we still have issues - and we aren't as "cool" as some of the other cities listed. Yes, we do still have significant issues to overcome. A lot of families still move out once they decide to have kids...etc. And - there's simply no way that we even try to meet the Seattle, Austin, Atlanta coolness factor. However, you simply can't deny the buzz and the hope that people have for Detroit these days. It's a different city than it was even 5 years ago.

Major corporations are moving back to the city core from the suburbs. There are new businesses opening all the time because the city has been cleaned up. Housing is on par with what you'd expect for a growing, booming area. It's a destination city for a lot of 20-30 somethings these days. It's a place that people want to be these days. That hasn't been true for a very long time.

I'm one of those suburbanites that never would have gone down to Detroit by myself, regardless of how much money you paid me a few years ago. I'm a huge Detroit booster these days because the transformation has just been amazing. I've seen it for myself and I'm just amazed at how much the city has changed in just a few years. And every time I go there - it's even better. Night and day different. That's why I think Detroit deserves a place on this list.

It's a list about transformation and you can't deny that Detroit has transformed a lot. It seems to me that a lot of cities have just gotten bigger or cooler/more popular, but has their very essence changed that much in 10 years. There is now hope in Detroit where there wasn't hope even a few years ago. Detroit simply isn't the burnt out hollow shell it was 10 years ago. And pretending otherwise is to deny reality.
I repped you because I feel strongly about this also. When I was in the beginning of my career 15 years ago, I had an assignment in Detroit. I took the empty people mover from the Renaissance Marriott to the bombed out like downtown, and my first thoughts were " what the Heck happened here?" Fast forward to now and the change is amazing. There were no pedestrians, a small decent area in and around Greek Town, the Federal Courthouse and some govt. buildings and that was it. There were literally trees growing out of abandoned rooftops, one of those now being the impressively restored Book Cadillac Westin. Detroit was creepily interesting, almost out of a dark thriller maybe the Joker could pop out at any time. Today is totally different, and optimism abounds in the city. Toronto and Seattle may have added skyline, but are basically the same cities only denser; Detroit went from post-WW 2 to destination city. Now THAT is change.
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Old 10-07-2019, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Minneapolis proper has grown significantly. It isn't in the top tier but is probably one tier down. From 2010 to 2018 it grew by 11% and increased its population density by 745 ppsm to 7,820 ppsm. It was the fastest growing municipality in the Twin Cities over that time.

In general, it seems like the city is in the process of going up a level in terms of its urbanity. The parking lots downtown are disappearing and the midrises in the inner neighborhoods are starting to pile up.
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Old 10-07-2019, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Seems like you do care.

Oh, really? How so? If I wanted to live in that sort of environment, I would. My job is virtual, I live here by choice.
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