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Old 11-08-2022, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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The Hispanics and Asian population are usually out in the burbs instead of being in the city anyway.

Just drive along Buford Highway in NE part of Metro Atlanta...

Atlanta (city proper) demographics reminds me somewhat of DC - also very black and white with a dividing line, areas that are gentrifying, with very diverse suburbs.

Personally to me Atlanta is not really "cool"...it's not a bad place to live but as they said, it's "too busy to hate" as its reputation is more of a place where corporate type can make a living. Reminds me of Dallas (which is anything but "cool") in that sense.
So, we're going to pick on Dallas now? I'm also going to push back on this. Freakonomics did a 2 part podcast earlier this year on why people are moving to Dallas. Hint, it's not just for jobs or LCOL (though I would also argue that these are "cool"). I love this quote from a lady they interviewed that moved from NYC to Dallas:

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I think if you’ve never been to a place, there could be a lot of assumptions, everything from pop culture to politics. And I would say: withhold judgment until you come. You hear different languages on the street, all throughout the galleries of the museum, incredible universities. There is something for everyone, so I would hope that they would be open to the idea and not shortchange what they think they might know about Dallas. It is a fantastic place to live.
Dare I say it... it seems there's a fair amount of close-mindedness on these forums based on certain stereotypes. To me a big city with good jobs, reasonable cost of living, vibrant art scene, diversity, great universities, and a bunch more is cool. This is not to diminish the coolness of large coastal cities, I just don't see the point in limiting my perspective to such a narrow range.
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Old 11-08-2022, 01:21 PM
 
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So, we're going to pick on Dallas now? I'm also going to push back on this. Freakonomics did a 2 part podcast earlier this year on why people are moving to Dallas. Hint, it's not just for jobs or LCOL (though I would also argue that these are "cool"). I love this quote from a lady they interviewed that moved from NYC to Dallas:



Dare I say it... it seems there's a fair amount of close-mindedness on these forums based on certain stereotypes. To me a big city with good jobs, reasonable cost of living, vibrant art scene, diversity, great universities, and a bunch more is cool. This is not to diminish the coolness of large coastal cities, I just don't see the point in limiting my perspective to such a narrow range.
I grew up in Houston, so of course I'll pick on Dallas .

But what the lady is describing is basically a "cosmopolitan" city, and Dallas is definitely not some backward cowtown anymore (that would be, well, Fort Worth ). It doesn't make Dallas a "cool"/"sexy" pick - but that doesn't mean Dallas is a bad city to live in, either.

In terms of Texas cities Austin is usually consider the "cool" place anyway, that's not going to change.
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Old 11-08-2022, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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But what the lady is describing is basically a "cosmopolitan" city, and Dallas is definitely not some backward cowtown anymore
That's exactly my point. Most cosmopolitan areas are actually quite interesting. They are not just "a place where corporate type can make a living" (your words, not mine). I'd rather live in a city that's actually cool in terms of what it offers rather than chasing outdated reputations.
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Old 11-08-2022, 01:58 PM
 
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I grew up in Houston, so of course I'll pick on Dallas .

But what the lady is describing is basically a "cosmopolitan" city, and Dallas is definitely not some backward cowtown anymore (that would be, well, Fort Worth ). It doesn't make Dallas a "cool"/"sexy" pick - but that doesn't mean Dallas is a bad city to live in, either.

In terms of Texas cities Austin is usually consider the "cool" place anyway, that's not going to change.
How is FW a backwards cowtown? It definitely feels like a major city to me. It's even a Lil cool
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Old 11-08-2022, 02:14 PM
 
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California was a cool place to live 40 or 50 years ago. Now much of it is a national embarrassment. Cost of living, traffic, crime, illegals.

You can get much better for your buck elsewhere.
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Old 11-08-2022, 02:16 PM
 
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How is FW a backwards cowtown? It definitely feels like a major city to me. It's even a Lil cool
Lol...I am clearly joking . Plus it was a cowtown (i.e. the stockyard) and is quite proud of that history.

FW overall is underrated. Maybe it can become the "cool" city one day with people "discovering" it.
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Old 11-08-2022, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
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California’s cool status was built on being a place to live, a lifestyle. It drove generations to move there.
That lifestyle was driven by the hippies and anything goes attitude—great music/bands, “summer of love”, drug culture, nature, chill and laid back….evolved with a great culinary and wine scene (NorCal). Has definitely taken a hit in the past decade or two with growing homeless populations, crime, tech nerds replacing artistic types, too woke/politically correct types, etc.

There might be cool cities, doubt there are cool states—as good portions of CA used to be; that ship has sailed.

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Old 11-08-2022, 07:18 PM
 
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I drove through downtown Fort Worth on a Friday evening earlier this year. To me it was possibly the nicest downtown I've seen in the U.S., pound for pound. It's clean, pretty and was filled with people strolling around, packing bars and restaurants, and going to shows. The people were attractive and well-dressed; this was not the crowd one normally sees when shopping at Kroger or Walmart. I was amazed.
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Old 11-09-2022, 03:23 AM
 
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I would say Colorado. Lots of younger people wanting to move there as it has that mountain scenery and being "hip"...oh and of course being mile high (Well, more states now legalized weed but CO was the first).
Washington legalized marijuana on the exact same day as Colorado.

Overall, for cool states I would put Washington, Oregon and Colorado at the top. All have tons of breweries, super strong stoner culture, cool music (that's more WA and OR), awesome outdoor scenery and activities, really hip cities (WA - Seattle, Bellingham; OR - Portland, Bend; CO - Denver, Boulder), etc. etc.
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Old 11-09-2022, 06:43 AM
 
Location: OC
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Washington legalized marijuana on the exact same day as Colorado.

Overall, for cool states I would put Washington, Oregon and Colorado at the top. All have tons of breweries, super strong stoner culture, cool music (that's more WA and OR), awesome outdoor scenery and activities, really hip cities (WA - Seattle, Bellingham; OR - Portland, Bend; CO - Denver, Boulder), etc. etc.
Couldn't have said it better though I'd say most people think California is cool
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