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You don't know what you are talking about. It has been years since I have had any encounter with a police officer. And none of those for the last 40 years have been unpleasant.
Nice but of no relevance: guns have not prevented the US government from spying on Americans, from collecting data and from engaging in illegal covert actions during the last decades.
Sure, the US are a democracy and far far better than USSR or the Third Reich, this doesn't mean it is because of guns.
Well, Afghanistan, Yemen, and Somalia are probably very supportive of the second amendment as they allow their citizens access to a variety of crew served weapons including machine guns, mortars, and rpgs.
That aside, fire arms ownership is an individual right in the US that is not subject to change in any practical sense.
Its amusing to me hearing people who aren't from here and have never been here who are bothered by our gun laws than we are i don't even understand why they care in the first place lol
...and what about those of us who have been to the US and live in a country ( Canada ) which has do deal with illegal firearms coming across our border?
It would be a lot less work for our customs agents if the US wasn't so gun happy.
To the OP - your thread title isn't really a question since you go straight to your opinion...
But the answer is that most nations have a warped view of the US based on media (movies and sensationalized news reports), and think that it's still the wild west out here, with people walking everywhere with six guns strapped to there sides. Heck - many American's think that.
So of course they are horrified.
Then again, most Europeans are also horrified of our concept of freedom of speech as well. "What? You mean police will protect and guard KKK parades?" They don't get American concepts of individual liberties, the good and the bad of it.
...and what about those of us who have been to the US and live in a country ( Canada ) which has do deal with illegal firearms coming across our border?
It would be a lot less work for our customs agents if the US wasn't so gun happy.
I grew up in the US and I've lived on and off in Malaysia for 5.5 years.
My Malaysian wife HATES guns and thinks it's crazy that Americans are allowed to own them. She lives in Malaysia and says that if Malaysians had guns the street crime would be worse than it is. The country now has a lot of petty crimes. Most of our Malaysian friends feel the same way.
When we lived in the US, she'd get nervous or angry whenever she's hear about a murder in the city.
I also know and have worked with people from all over Asia, Europe and Africa and they think our gun laws are too loose. On the other hand, most of them seem to think that our laws are universal and not regulated on a state level like they are.
The only nationality of people I met regularly who liked guns more than Americans were Yemenis.
That being said, I support a person's right to a fun only if:
1. They pass a VERY, VERY strict background check. This includes psychiatric evaluations and a history of a violent background.
2. If you're buying you're first gun, you must attend a course on gun safety.
3. Your gun must be registered with the state and federal governments. That prevents your gun for being transferred illegally to someone in another state with stricter gun laws.
4. All person to person sales of guns must be registered with the local and federal government to prevent trafficking. This includes gun shows. If you sell it to someone and they don't register it, it should been treated as a gun trafficking charge.
5. As long as the gun is registered to you, you are responsible for it. If your gun is purchased in Virginia is used in a crime in NY, and you didn't report it stolen, it can be treated as if you were trafficking it.
All you have to do is repeal the 2nd amendment if you want to implement your dream.
This is a common logical fallacy. Guns are useful for protection against other things besides "other guns".
The fact is, you can use a gun to protect yourself from mugging, knife attack, machete attack, home invasion, etc.
Yep, the OP said you could use hand to hand combat or a baseball bat. Guns even the playing field for someone defending themself. How can the most disadvantaged in terms of physical strength and aggression, the elderly and physically handicapped, use hand to hand combat or a baseball bat to defend themselves against an attacker?
When a shooting happens, the main stream media and politicians (in office and police chiefs) rush to judgement and say guns should be banned. But when a crazy Islamist kills a bunch of people, we're told to not rush to judgement. Solid logic there for you.
If so, how is it affecting them? Is there an increased incidence of murders/accidental deaths?
If not, how commonly do citizens illegally acquire and use arms?
And do other nations' citizens WANT to have the right to bear arms?
Gun enthusiast U.S. citizens maintain that they feel safer having guns for self-defense. But imagine without guns in everyone's hands, people could simply get used to the fact that if their lives are being threatened, they can always use a baseball bat or hand-to-hand combat? There are plenty of non-lethal self-defense alternatives such as mace, pepper spray, stun guns. If curious kids get their hands on those, at least no one will die.
If no one had guns, we wouldn't need them.
If some people have guns, everyone feels the need to have one.
Last night in Washington D.C. two children were playing with a gun, and a 3-year old was fatally shot.
In Baltimore, in the month of July alone there have been FORTY murders.
Such accidents & crimes are common enough that we MUST re-evaluate this archaic "right to bear arms." The 2nd amendment was established in a different time for reasons that are no longer applicable in our day.
Gun hobbyists, recreational hunters, and paranoid citizens are the ones who continue to uphold the 2nd amendment.
What is the ratio of guns being used safely/responsibly in self defense vs how many murders & accidents have resulted from personally-owned guns?
I suspect that there are more murders and accidental deaths than incidents of responsible self defense.
A couple of google searches or youtube searches on bad guy gets owned or, woman defends herself or, convenience store owner shoots robber is all the evidence and justification one needs to own one. Choose wisely.
I grew up in the US and I've lived on and off in Malaysia for 5.5 years.
My Malaysian wife HATES guns and thinks it's crazy that Americans are allowed to own them. She lives in Malaysia and says that if Malaysians had guns the street crime would be worse than it is. The country now has a lot of petty crimes. Most of our Malaysian friends feel the same way.
How do you and your Malaysian friends feel about homosexuality being illegal and hanging as a punishment for 1st offenders for drug trafficking? We all think other countries have "crazy" laws.
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3. Your gun must be registered with the state and federal governments. That prevents your gun for being transferred illegally to someone in another state with stricter gun laws.
No, it doesn't "prevent" anything. All it does is impose a burden on law-abiding citizens. Criminals would continue to do illegal transfers as they do now.
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4. All person to person sales of guns must be registered with the local and federal government to prevent trafficking. This includes gun shows. If you sell it to someone and they don't register it, it should been treated as a gun trafficking charge.
Who is charged with trafficking if the purchaser doesn't register? The person who bought the gun or the one who sold it? If you sell a car and the buyer doesn't register it, why should the seller get in trouble?
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5. As long as the gun is registered to you, you are responsible for it. If your gun is purchased in Virginia is used in a crime in NY, and you didn't report it stolen, it can be treated as if you were trafficking it.
What if you don't notice the gun is missing? A kid steals Grandpa's hunting rifle to hold up a liquor store, and Grandpa goes to jail because he didn't check the gun cabinet before he went to bed?
I bet it all sounds so simple when you're sitting around the LGBT-free zone of Malaysia, doesn't it?
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i don't even understand why they care in the first place lol
