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I think too much diversity is a double edged sword. I recently traveled to England and Ireland and it was interesting.
In these countries one would expect to have a proper experience of being immersed in the culture but that is no longer the case.
There has been a huge influx of Eastern Europeans to both countries.
My brother in law employs many Polish guys because they give him an honest days work unlike his fellow country men that have given him a lot of grief over the years.
In England at one particular hotel during breakfast we were treated to 2 rather surly young English women that worked there and one really sweet young woman from Bulgaria that treated us very well. The difference once again was a bad attitude from the locals.
Still back in Ireland it was odd to find ourselves at a castle somewhere in the middle of the country having tea served by a nice young man from the Philippines.
It is sad that the European countries are losing their identity but in my experience the locals don't want to work so in this case the diversity brought about by immigrants is a good thing.
The same could be said about here in the states.
I wonder if the Englishmen and the Irishmen are angry about those immigrants who are "stealing" jobs they don't want like people are here.
In many countries it is always said that diversity is great and that it only strengthens them. But is it really? It seems like countries that have a lot of diversity, especially speaking of racial and religious diversity have some of the biggest issues; war, poverty, divide, conflict etc. Yet look at say, Japan, for the good part when it comes to race, religion, etc it is doing very well.
Yet look at countries both past and present that were diverse and it ultimately always seems to ultimately end in ruin. The Roman Empire became diverse; destroyed from within. Austrio-Hungray was diverse; pretty much sucked at everything they did in WWI and had all kinds of issues leading to its dissolution. Then look at today where countries in the West are primarily accepting refugees and others with belief like, values, ideas etc that are far different than what the host nations are used to leading to lots of crime, and discord.
So honestly, when it comes to things such as peace, prosperity, a general sense of unity would it not ultimately be best if every country, like Japan had one race, one language, one religion, one general outlook regarding things etc etc etc?
Homogeneous nations seem to do better than those that aren't.
I'm not saying this to be offensive, but I think your perspective may be a bit superficial.
I lived for a couple of years in Thailand. There are really 2 Thailands -- the southern peninsula, which is heavily Muslim; and the main body of the nation which is around 97% Buddhist...and virtually all Asian. So in that very homogeneous main body of the nation the police and military sometimes get away with murder (literally). Bribery is a way of life. Poverty is significant in much of the country. Pollution, though better, is a major issue. The press is controlled. Say a word against the king or royal family you may find yourself in prison for decades.
Let's see -- are you suggesting we send all the Italian-Americans back to Italy since they brought the mafioso here? How about all those Germans who were pro German bund at one time?
Where is it you want to draw the line with diversity?
To me a targeted diversity makes sense. Before agreeing to take people from other countries/cultures, we should ask ourselves, "do these people share/enhance our values?" For example, immigrants from most Asian countries have integrated into our culture just fine. Japan, for example, has a long tradition of respect for the family and legal traditions. They seem to have been a positive addition.
However, people from countries that have widespread corruption, that strongly disagree with our values, that consider criminal enterprises as mainstream do not seem to be a positive addition.
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I know a number of Muslims who have very strong family values. In fact, if Americans had as strong family values as some of the Muslims I know, we'd have far fewer problems.
There are groups of people who refuse to assimilate and will establish like minded enclaves and also other groups who have deeply ingrained cultural values that are incompatible with civilized or western society.
I want no part of that they can stay where they are.
No thanks.
It does matter how rapidly it occurs. The normal process is for 2nd and 3rd generations to assimilate, seeking greater advantages and opportunities that the wider population can provide. That happens normally and successfully when there is never quite enough 1st generation immigrants to form a fully self-sustaining enclave.
So, in your view, the only problems caused by diversity are caused by the host country?
So, if people are coming from a culture where female genital mutilation and torturing and murdering homosexuals, the host country would have to accommodate their practices?
I read ncole1's post, and she said nothing of the sort.
All I know about "diversity" is what I have had to deal with in my life.
The word "diversity" is a liberal guilt generated word that has no meaning in any human group function to accomplish a uniform goal. To achieve goals it's necessary for every one to be pulling their weight in the same direction.
Business, the military, and any other similar organizations require uniformity to cross the finish line with any expediency and efficiency.
The people that swear by diversity have very little experience other then social, government or collegiate type work, where reaching the goal is actually achieving some form of politically correct solution.
According to Webster's dictionary the opposite of diversity is uniformity. How many marriages work with out some uniformity, how many businesses succeed without uniformity, has any war ever been won without uniformity. Our whole society has been based on uniformity not diversity.
In many countries it is always said that diversity is great and that it only strengthens them. But is it really? It seems like countries that have a lot of diversity, especially speaking of racial and religious diversity have some of the biggest issues; war, poverty, divide, conflict etc. Yet look at say, Japan, for the good part when it comes to race, religion, etc it is doing very well.
Yet look at countries both past and present that were diverse and it ultimately always seems to ultimately end in ruin. The Roman Empire became diverse; destroyed from within. Austrio-Hungray was diverse; pretty much sucked at everything they did in WWI and had all kinds of issues leading to its dissolution. Then look at today where countries in the West are primarily accepting refugees and others with belief like, values, ideas etc that are far different than what the host nations are used to leading to lots of crime, and discord.
So honestly, when it comes to things such as peace, prosperity, a general sense of unity would it not ultimately be best if every country, like Japan had one race, one language, one religion, one general outlook regarding things etc etc etc?
Homogeneous nations seem to do better than those that aren't.
Be it among and between my immediate family unit or society in general, I have lived within diversity my entire life. I've never experienced homogeneity and don't think it could ever be possible in my case.
I was born into a mixed race culture in the Caribbean. Within my own family there are people with Anglo features, Negro features, and Caribbean Indian features.
When I moved to Mainland USA, although I tended to gravitate towards African-Americans, I felt comfortable with practically all groups, especially Asians which were a group I'd had little contact with.
In essence, and as stated, I don't know any other manner of life outside the prism of diversity. I've learned so much from peoples from different corners of the world. It's a beautiful experience which I greatly value and appreciate.
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