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We still don’t have an answer to the question. Why judge two or more adults for doing what makes them happy and isn’t hurting anyone? And they can make decent money from it. They’re not doing anything illegal or on welfare (God forbid). Who made the rules as to what’s immoral? Like I said before people don’t know why other then someone else told them it’s iky.
If there was a way for corporations to make money from it it would be legal and encouraged.
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We still don’t have an answer to the question. Why judge two or more adults for doing what makes them happy and isn’t hurting anyone? And they can make decent money from it. They’re not doing anything illegal or on welfare (God forbid). Who made the rules as to what’s immoral? Like I said before people don’t know why other then someone else told them it’s iky.
*shrug*
I'm a libertarian, so for legalized prostitution, I just don't think it's admirable at all and it's a symptom of a broken spirit.
And THAT'S one of the reasons they're disdained. Because other people think their lives are horrible, and unimaginable.
That doesn't make sense. Society would be LESS inclined to look down on them if they held the view that sex workers had unimaginably horrific lives and that view wouldn't extend to strippers and porn stars.
I can think of any number of professions that would be totally revolting (to me) - like a personal care assistant to paraplegics where you have to manually evacuate their bowels, or a dog groomer that has to milk anal glands. People don't treat them with disdain or assume they're screwed up. In fact we tend to look up to people who do yukky stuff because we understand that there is a need for it.
There's evidence that legal prostitution reduces sexual assaults in the wider community so why not view their profession as one of many icky jobs that people choose to do?
Our society is hung up on puritanical views of sex with the irony being that the holders of such views don't necessarily practice what they preach. Western culture was built on such principles yet we know the founding fathers most certainly did not abide by those standards. Why? Because those standards were designed to control women and it worked. Women were denied access to resources by lowering their social status if they didn't comply.
This still happens today. If a prostitute goes missing you'd be hard pressed to get the cops to do much. Rape victims still get asked about their sexual habits, how they dressed and if they'd been drinking. We still treat sexually liberated women as being less deserving of justice whilst placing the chaste 'good girls' on a pedestal.
We still don’t have an answer to the question. Why judge two or more adults for doing what makes them happy and isn’t hurting anyone? And they can make decent money from it. They’re not doing anything illegal or on welfare (God forbid). Who made the rules as to what’s immoral? Like I said before people don’t know why other then someone else told them it’s iky.
If two people were happy cutting each other to ribbons with razor blades, filmed it and sold it, you'd say that was perfectly acceptable behavior? And applaud their business sense?
Anyone can do what they like. Doesn't mean others have to think it's acceptable. Or healthy.
That doesn't make sense. Society would be LESS inclined to look down on them if they held the view that sex workers had unimaginably horrific lives and that view wouldn't extend to strippers and porn stars.
I can think of any number of professions that would be totally revolting (to me) - like a personal care assistant to paraplegics where you have to manually evacuate their bowels, or a dog groomer that has to milk anal glands. People don't treat them with disdain or assume they're screwed up. In fact we tend to look up to people who do yukky stuff because we understand that there is a need for it.
There's evidence that legal prostitution reduces sexual assaults in the wider community so why not view their profession as one of many icky jobs that people choose to do?
Our society is hung up on puritanical views of sex with the irony being that the holders of such views don't necessarily practice what they preach. Western culture was built on such principles yet we know the founding fathers most certainly did not abide by those standards. Why? Because those standards were designed to control women and it worked. Women were denied access to resources by lowering their social status if they didn't comply.
This still happens today. If a prostitute goes missing you'd be hard pressed to get the cops to do much. Rape victims still get asked about their sexual habits, how they dressed and if they'd been drinking. We still treat sexually liberated women as being less deserving of justice whilst placing the chaste 'good girls' on a pedestal.
Name a mentally healthy women that voluntarily chooses prostitution over all her other options.
has nothing to do with being puritanical. Has to do with self worth. 2 different things.
I'm a libertarian, so for legalized prostitution, I just don't think it's admirable at all and it's a symptom of a broken spirit.
Now I have questions. No one said it’s admirable but aren’t there worse things? But more importantly why kick someone with a broken spirit? That seems immoral to me.
I never said "all marriages" I wouldn't even say "most marriages" can be described as such. The percentage of such marriages where that arrangement occurs are generally seen as socially acceptable. Specifically for the man! The woman may get a slight degree of flak but the man gets none. Case in point, look at our president and his many marriages. Social and economic condemnation for such arrangements do not occur.
Aren't we basically talking about condemnation for women with this thread? When is the last time a guy got slammed for being a Chippendale? Those marriages might be more or less acceptable for the men, but the women still get looked down on as gold diggers or trophy wives by the majority, even if it's not always voiced openly. I'm fairly certain plenty of people take potshots at Trumps wives for their marriages, even if they seem accepting on the surface of it, so I don't really think it's viewed as 'acceptable' by a lot of people.
If two people were happy cutting each other to ribbons with razor blades, filmed it and sold it, you'd say that was perfectly acceptable behavior? And applaud their business sense?
Anyone can do what they like. Doesn't mean others have to think it's acceptable. Or healthy.
They called it Game of Thorones. But the question is WHY do others have a problem with it ESPECIALLY if it doesn’t effect them.
We still treat sexually liberated women as being less deserving of justice whilst placing the chaste 'good girls' on a pedestal.
i'm also interested in your continued description of strippers, etc as being sexually liberated women. Do you assume that just because they participate in these types of sexual activities that they are 'liberated'? I don't believe one equals the other.
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