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confirmed, ben was a sl*t. i admire him a lot as a man of state, but i wouldnt have recommended admiring him "too much" without protection.
or does every president really start raping his wife the moment he gets elected?
i certainly dont think so, but by the power dynamic argument marxists put forth-- well? are you really comfortable calling every american president in history a rapist? youre certainly ok saying that very casually about jefferson.
I wouldn't put Carter, Nixon, T. Roosevelt or Taft in quite the same category as TJ....
C'mon, be real. My post was in answer to someone who claimed that our country was founded by Puritans. It was not. I think they were confusing "first settlement of the Europeans" with founding of the USA.
It’s a fact that people in the industry are not paid nearly as much these days as they were in the 90s or even the early 2000s. Due to people basically being naked for free on Instagram. Last I checked around 2010 the average adult star makes roughly $34000 a film with women making more than men. Also there are many women porn directors compared to Hollywood. I’ve never felt the sex industry was a bad thing but I wouldn’t want my kid doing it because they have other options.
Although Rogue. Red put it more elegantly than I could I agree that women who were taught to use a chasity belt if you will feel like they are being challenged personally by such acts. They tend to also have an issue with their man watching porn even rather than watching with them in my experience. Men wanting to have an untouched woman is a cultural trend that is rapidly changing.
In general I believe most people don’t know why it’s wrong to make money off of sex other than others have told them it is. People would be embarrassed to admit it if they were to think for themselves that the stripper down the street is nice and a good mother due to other’s opinions of the stereotype and what other’s would than think about them.
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As in ... people who *choose* that kind of work ... have issues. Sad.
That stands to reason.
Your barrier of privacy and modesty has to be completely broken down to strip in front of rooms of people, or have sex with unappealing strangers. You kind of have had to have done that already, completely devalued sexual intimacy, to choose to do that for money.
Although, I do think strippers and prostitutes are in a little different category from each other. There are college girls and girls who are otherwise fairly emotionally healthy who strip for a few years because it is good money.
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Reading through this entire thread, it seems there's a piece that's missed.
Being a prostitute is the very last thing I'd want to do. That comes after school bus driver, sherpa, and working on a lobster boat in the icy winter.
As joyful as sex is between two adults in love, prostitution is the opposite.
It's scary - you're quite likely to encounter someone who wants to harm or even kill you. Although there are a few Hugh Grants who visit prostitutes, reading through nonfiction stories by prostitutes, many customers are demanding, gruff, physically dirty.
You know that awful feeling that comes over you when you realize you have to a really disgusting chore? You rescue some puppy from underneath a house, and while bathing it larvae begin to hatch on the puppy's fur and before you know it, many have crawled up your arms and are in the puppy's eyes. You go to get your toddler up from his nap and he's gotten into his diaper and smeared poop all over the crib and mattress, and his arms, and you grit your teeth and clean it all up trying not to shriek. Something has died somewhere around your house, and you have to go find it and dig it out from the drain pipe under the driveway.
I think I'd feel like I did all those things every day if I were a prostitute.
And THAT'S one of the reasons they're disdained. Because other people think their lives are horrible, and unimaginable.
Reading through this entire thread, it seems there's a piece that's missed.
Being a prostitute is the very last thing I'd want to do. That comes after school bus driver, sherpa, and working on a lobster boat in the icy winter.
As joyful as sex is between two adults in love, prostitution is the opposite.
It's scary - you're quite likely to encounter someone who wants to harm or even kill you. Although there are a few Hugh Grants who visit prostitutes, reading through nonfiction stories by prostitutes, many customers are demanding, gruff, physically dirty.
You know that awful feeling that comes over you when you realize you have to a really disgusting chore? You rescue some puppy from underneath a house, and while bathing it larvae begin to hatch on the puppy's fur and before you know it, many have crawled up your arms and are in the puppy's eyes. You go to get your toddler up from his nap and he's gotten into his diaper and smeared poop all over the crib and mattress, and his arms, and you grit your teeth and clean it all up trying not to shriek. Something has died somewhere around your house, and you have to go find it and dig it out from the drain pipe under the driveway.
I think I'd feel like I did all those things every day if I were a prostitute.
And THAT'S one of the reasons they're disdained. Because other people think their lives are horrible, and unimaginable.
But we’re not talking about street walkers. Porn / stripping is regulated.
Your barrier of privacy and modesty has to be completely broken down to strip in front of rooms of people, or have sex with unappealing strangers. You kind of have had to have done that already, completely devalued sexual intimacy, to choose to do that for money.
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This may be true to an extent, but "appealing" is generally not something that I've heard women care about even in their mate selection...that is, appearance isn't as important as the other way around (men like appearance more).
I would imagine that an Eliot Spitzer and his high priced escort - that things may have been appealing both ways to whatever extent (power and not a bad looking guy....).
The great unsaid is that many hookups and marriages are partially composed of the same dynamics. We've have to get into the meanings of love and attraction and lust and monogamy.
It goes without saying that are discussing this in the context of our modern western society. But, even then, how to explain the Dutch and Danes and more liberal sexual tastes? It's hard to imagine that Danish society is "sick" because they have full naked mags on display in an upscale hotel lobby where ALL can see, including children.
Buying that mag...or even looking at it, is "paying for sex".
I still cant grasp the concept of, here is $50, because you are naked in front of me shaking yo azz SMH
Like who would have ever thought that where our waste comes out would be the appealing part?
We need a redesign. Then again, we are all still the same basic animals from millions of years ago and "those hips" look like they'd easily support holding a baby or two or three. And "those hips" look large enough to deal with pregnancy and delivery.
We are fooling ourselves to think it is otherwise.
We've all seen enough episodes of animal planet, let alone Clan of the Cave Bear.
There are more women than ever doing Porn and watching porn.
Just look at Instagram and snap-chat, its a cesspool of want to be porn stars and strippers.
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