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Old 07-16-2009, 01:25 PM
 
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I used to be a pro at gettting into Capri Sun as a kid. One of my younger cousins gave me one recently and I just about drew blood poking the straw all the way thru and into my palm. Maybe not so highly evolved.
Glad Im not the only one that has trouble with them.

I get them for my grandkids sometimes, but I hate those things.
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Old 07-16-2009, 02:49 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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OK, one thing I havn't seen adressed in an in depth manner on here is primitive cultures. Ones that still exist today, such as in the Amazon places in Africa and Polynesia etc. Are their diets devoid of meats? Most of these are hunter/gatherer types of societies , are they not? And they are downright healthy , in general. Going back in time a bit, one of the healthiest societies I can think of had to be the Plains Indian culture of North America. Well built, handsome features,low body fat, sickness was a rarity till outside contact ruined that. Dietary staples of these outstanding people? Red meat. Buffalo, Venison, Elk, Antelope, all the best representatives of red meat. An extremely active lifestyle coupled with a high protien, diet (and they considered sources of fat to be precious come to think of it). Bear meat at the top of that list and Bison as well, both carried precious fat, to help stay alive in the cold months. Fat is required in our diets, especially if we live in the cold. Can't get that from plant matter...sorry. I have to wonder what the Cheyenne, Lakota, Oglala, Blackoot, Crow, Arapahoe, etc, would think of this debate.'Vegetarian', is that an old Native American term for lousy hunter?
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Old 07-16-2009, 03:28 PM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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I think this is in every other forum I've ever been in but seems to be missing here. Do you eat meat, or are you vegetarian (or are you an omnivore?)? What are your reasons for your choice?

For me, I sometimes eat meat. There isn't anything I would not eat if it was put on my plate. I might not like the texture, but since I have no taste buds, it has nothing to do with the taste. Probably because I was basically starved as a child, so I never want to pass up food. The only thing that keeps me from buying meat or fresh vegetables is the COST. Too expensive, really, to eat as an every day thing.
Facultative carnivore here, lol.
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Old 07-16-2009, 03:29 PM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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For shame. What did that ostrich ever do to you to deserve its fate?
Why taste good of course, duh!
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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What happens in the animal kingdom is natural and normal.
They are part of the normal food chain WITHOUT USING GUNS.

Stop justifying your blood sport.
I'm not "justifying" anything.

I am not, nor ever will be, a vegetarian or vegan

I am a fisherman and a hunter. I eat what I catch and what I kill. I love venison, elk etc.

Hows that?
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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For shame. What did that ostrich ever do to you to deserve its fate?
Ostrich Meat is VERY good.

Ever tried it???
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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OK, one thing I havn't seen adressed in an in depth manner on here is primitive cultures. Ones that still exist today, such as in the Amazon places in Africa and Polynesia etc. Are their diets devoid of meats? Most of these are hunter/gatherer types of societies , are they not? And they are downright healthy , in general. Going back in time a bit, one of the healthiest societies I can think of had to be the Plains Indian culture of North America. Well built, handsome features,low body fat, sickness was a rarity till outside contact ruined that. Dietary staples of these outstanding people? Red meat. Buffalo, Venison, Elk, Antelope, all the best representatives of red meat. An extremely active lifestyle coupled with a high protien, diet (and they considered sources of fat to be precious come to think of it). Bear meat at the top of that list and Bison as well, both carried precious fat, to help stay alive in the cold months. Fat is required in our diets, especially if we live in the cold. Can't get that from plant matter...sorry. I have to wonder what the Cheyenne, Lakota, Oglala, Blackoot, Crow, Arapahoe, etc, would think of this debate.'Vegetarian', is that an old Native American term for lousy hunter?
They may have not eaten the quantity of meat that people do in one sitting. The racial stock known for the longest lifespans eat rice predominately, and very little meat--but they DO eat meat.

There's a difference between eating 3-4 ounces of meat at a meal, and eating a 16 ounce steak.
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Visitation between Wal-Mart & Home Depot
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I'm not "justifying" anything.

I am not, nor ever will be, a vegetarian or vegan

I am a fisherman and a hunter. I eat what I catch and what I kill. I love venison, elk etc.

Hows that?
Forget it. (S)he's off starting threads about how 9/11 was an inside job in P&C. Long gone.
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Visitation between Wal-Mart & Home Depot
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They may have not eaten the quantity of meat that people do in one sitting. The racial stock known for the longest lifespans eat rice predominately, and very little meat--but they DO eat meat.

There's a difference between eating 3-4 ounces of meat at a meal, and eating a 16 ounce steak.
I agree with that, although I am occasionally guilty of substantially overconsuming well-seasoned and perfectly cooked meat.
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Old 07-16-2009, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Ostrich Meat is VERY good.

Ever tried it???
Um...no. But now you got me curious.
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