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I thought I would chime in on this topic. It's irritating to me to listen to responses from people who aren't gay. I'm talking about the "it's a choice" or "disease" comments. How do you know if your not the one living as a gay man or woman? First let me say I'm gay. I also have hazel eyes, left handed,vegetarian(that was a choice) etc.. Being gay for me is just a part of who I am, BUT it's not all I am. I was raised in a typical midwestern family. Mom, dad, sister and brother. I went to church, played baseball, hung out with friends. I was never molested, didn't grow up with overbearing female figures,was not exposed to porn, didn't know any gay people. Nothing that is suppose to make one "choose" or become "infected" with homosexuality,lol. I can understand why people think it's a disease or choice. We in the gay community are all lumped together as one type of being. The public only see's what is shown or told to them. Misinformed, that is what is irritating. All straight people aren't the same. Some have made bad choices for themselves from the way they were raised or circumstances in their lives. Same with gay. I don't like all gay people. Some are not the kind of folks I want to associate with. Same with straight. I think some folks struggle with sexual identity if rape or abuse was involved. That is not my experience so I don't know. I do not choose to be gay. I'm not infected with homosexuality. I am who I am with no apology to give because I have done nothing wrong. I deserve to live my life filled with joy with my partner because it's my right as a human being. With all the chaos in this world, why can't we as one human family get it already??? Why is it so hard to respect one another? We are all different but have the same basic needs. It's not just about sex.
I thought I would chime in on this topic. It's irritating to me to listen to responses from people who aren't gay. I'm talking about the "it's a choice" or "disease" comments. How do you know if your not the one living as a gay man or woman? First let me say I'm gay. I also have hazel eyes, left handed,vegetarian(that was a choice) etc.. Being gay for me is just a part of who I am, BUT it's not all I am. I was raised in a typical midwestern family. Mom, dad, sister and brother. I went to church, played baseball, hung out with friends. I was never molested, didn't grow up with overbearing female figures,was not exposed to porn, didn't know any gay people. Nothing that is suppose to make one "choose" or become "infected" with homosexuality,lol. I can understand why people think it's a disease or choice. We in the gay community are all lumped together as one type of being. The public only see's what is shown or told to them. Misinformed, that is what is irritating. All straight people aren't the same. Some have made bad choices for themselves from the way they were raised or circumstances in their lives. Same with gay. I don't like all gay people. Some are not the kind of folks I want to associate with. Same with straight. I think some folks struggle with sexual identity if rape or abuse was involved. That is not my experience so I don't know. I do not choose to be gay. I'm not infected with homosexuality. I am who I am with no apology to give because I have done nothing wrong. I deserve to live my life filled with joy with my partner because it's my right as a human being. With all the chaos in this world, why can't we as one human family get it already??? Why is it so hard to respect one another? We are all different but have the same basic needs. It's not just about sex.
You're right, you weren't infected with homosexuality.
I believe that the reason some folks call it a disease or a disorder, is because its not the biological normal. Like hermaphordites, they didn't choose to be born with both sex organs, yet they were born that way. Some, choose to change this fact through surgery, others don't. Some folks born with other genetic abnormalities choose to live with their afflicition. However, they didn't catch a disease, they were simply born with a genetic difference.
Me, I don't know what to call it. I know its not normal, but neither is child hood diabetes. I don't judge people with child hood diabetes as being weird, but they are different from me.
There may, some day, be a "cure" for homosexuality. There may be a way to make yourself homosexual. Whatever floats your boat I say.
Mind quoting the diagnosis codes for homosexuality?
If it's a physical "disease", you will find it in one of the ICD references, or if you'd like to search it out as a mental "disease" one of the current DSM volumes.
The only need for the piece of paper acknowledging marriage is for government tax purposes. Ha, stupid government.
Firstly, the current marriage system also guards against fraudulent use of the institution, ie marrying more than one wife as it is currently illegal to do so. It also ensures that both people are of a legal age to do so in that State.
Marriage also bestows, automatically, over a thousand local, state, and federal rights and privilages, all recognized in each state, and even internationally as well. Such rights include joint custody of natural and adopted children and the right to direct their schooling and medical treatments, power of attorny, joint ownership of property, etc.
The Institution of marriage confers upon the spouses a familial relationship for legal purposes and concerns, and places the spouse as the primary "family member", over-riding all other family members in those legal concerns listed above and all others as well.
What tax concerns there are are only a small portion of those rights and privilages.
You're right, you weren't infected with homosexuality.
I believe that the reason some folks call it a disease or a disorder, is because its not the biological normal. Like hermaphordites, they didn't choose to be born with both sex organs, yet they were born that way. Some, choose to change this fact through surgery, others don't. Some folks born with other genetic abnormalities choose to live with their afflicition. However, they didn't catch a disease, they were simply born with a genetic difference.
Me, I don't know what to call it. I know its not normal, but neither is child hood diabetes. I don't judge people with child hood diabetes as being weird, but they are different from me.
There may, some day, be a "cure" for homosexuality. There may be a way to make yourself homosexual. Whatever floats your boat I say.
Cure, sure, as soon as they find a "cure" for heterosexuality too.
Cure, sure, as soon as they find a "cure" for heterosexuality too.
Thats what I said wasn't it, perhaps one day they will have a "cure" (I put it in quotations for lack of a better word) for homosexuality. I also said, perhaps people will decide that they want to be gay, and can change genetically to alter themselves to that persuasion.
Thats what I said wasn't it, perhaps one day they will have a "cure" (I put it in quotations for lack of a better word) for homosexuality. I also said, perhaps people will decide that they want to be gay, and can change genetically to alter themselves to that persuasion.
And who, pray tell, would want to change their sexual orientation in such a manner?
I don't know, different strokes for different folks. I'm not interested, but I'm sure someone out there would be.
You make no sence whatsoever, perhaps becasue you show a certain lack of understanding about homosexuality, and are confusing biological sex with homsoexuality.
They have the same right to marry that anyone else does. Marriage is not a right per se, but an institution. An institution long ago defined as being a relationship between a man and a woman - recognized by law for the purpose of providing for support of their offspring.
That is what the institution is and that's what it should stay. Everyone is welcome to enter it as defined.
And folks, don't jump to the knee-jerk conclusion that I am blind but for my religious devotion. There is no one on this forum more anti-religion than I.
So how about hetero couples too old to have children, or even adopt? Should they be forbidden to marry? And how about Lesbian couples who have kids? You know, there is a huge eugenic possibility there, for women to choose only genetic material from truly superior males: giant blonds with all the options (including freedom from Male-pattern Baldness, and with IQs north of 150). Those women could (and frequently do) help offset the dysgenic fertility that is threatening the future of civilization.
And how about gay men who adopt? I can guarantee that gay parents are better than NO parents.
So why shouldn't gay couples have the option of forming unions optimal for raising kids?
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