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Old 05-12-2018, 08:01 AM
 
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https://www.google.com/amp/story/s/w...ife-expectancy

So the previous advice was that a drink or two a day actually increased lifespan and prevented artherosclerosis and heart attacks. Now this new report contradicts that. No wonder people are confused.. we are constantly subject to confusing and contradictory information from the medical community.
Yikes, we better get this information out to those living to ripe old ages in the Mediterranean countries where two a day is part of the general culture.
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Old 05-12-2018, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yikes, we better get this information out to those living to ripe old ages in the Mediterranean countries where two a day is part of the general culture.
You think the rest of their diet/lifestyle may offset the alcohol part? And who's to say they wouldn't live even LONGER without the booze?
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Old 05-12-2018, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I do not drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes. I don’t eat gluten, red meat, sugar, dairy, or fried food.
I drink daily green smoothies (that is recent), eat plenty of seafood, legumes, fruits and vegetables, and have done so for years. Last month, during a routine colonoscopy, doctor removed a cancerous polyp. They weren’t sure if they got it all and MRI revealed at least stage 1. So I recently had 12 inches of my rectum/colon removed. It all turned out well thankfully but colon cancer is the last diagnosis I ever expected to hear.
10-15% of colon cancer is related to genetics.
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Old 05-12-2018, 08:15 AM
 
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You think the rest of their diet/lifestyle may offset the alcohol part? And who's to say they wouldn't live even LONGER without the booze?
The same diet and lifestyle is achievable here. In terms of minus the booze, perhaps if something else would take the place such as stress reduction practices seen in East/Southeast Asian cultures such as meditation and Tai-Chi. It's been proven pretty consistently that moderate consumption of alcohol reduces stress and as pointed out we tend to be prone to disease via genetics versus lifestyle components (other than tobacco products of course).
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Old 05-12-2018, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Yikes, we better get this information out to those living to ripe old ages in the Mediterranean countries where two a day is part of the general culture.
The longest lived people on the planet are the Singaporeans, Japanese, and Spanish and they are all drinking cultures so I'm skeptical of this claim of the thread. I posted about my Uncle who was a severe alcoholic for 60 years but outlived his sister (my Mom) who was a teetotaler.
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Old 05-12-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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Boy, I know some alchoholics that would have lived to 150! Since they lived into their late 80s despite their lifelong drinking.
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Old 05-12-2018, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The longest lived people on the planet are the Singaporeans, Japanese, and Spanish and they are all drinking cultures so I'm skeptical of this claim of the thread. I posted about my Uncle who was a severe alcoholic for 60 years but outlived his sister (my Mom) who was a teetotaler.
Again, yes, but again, look at the rest of their eating habits.

We would have to emulate their food choices, as well, to justify using them as an example (which is doable, but pretty much no one does it).
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Old 05-12-2018, 11:45 AM
 
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Me thinks a lot of folks like their booze so they’re quick to throw info like this is in the “crazy talk...we need more studies” pile.
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Old 05-12-2018, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Did they show it to you? Did you demand to see the laboratory slide that demonstrated, without a shadow of a doubt that this polyp was cancerous?

In Missouri, you don't need a license to work in a medical laboratory. You don't even need any medical/scientific/biological experience. All you need is a pulse. I cannot even begin to imagine how many UNNECESSARY medical procedures are conducted on patients due to a misdiagnosis resulting from a laboratory employee who didn't have a single clue what they were doing.

I shudder to think how many die because of it.

Not to change the subject *ahem*, I eat a horrific diet and am as healthy as a horse. I drink plenty too. People are just different and react differently to things. Nobody knows, nobody really knows.
The person who actually looks at the "laboratory slide" is the pathologist, who is an M.D. He definitely has "medical/scientific/biological experience".

How would the average layman know what he was looking at on a "slide"?
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Old 05-12-2018, 01:13 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Boy, I know some alchoholics that would have lived to 150! Since they lived into their late 80s despite their lifelong drinking.
It seems as if thier livers hold up, they can go on for a long time. Once the liver gets too wrecked, forget it. Fortunately the liver has a lot of regenerative abilites.

Bassist Duff McCagen is an example. The mans pancreas EXPLODED from boozing and he still lived.
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