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Old 04-21-2019, 11:36 AM
 
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I suffered with allergy and sinusitis all my life. Recurring postnasal drip, sinus pain, etc. Had the full spectrum of treatments and specialists all my life. Finally worked out my own home treatment which instantly controlled my problems and gave me relief without medication. One doctor prescribed me so many antibiotics that my insurer called me to find out if I was selling them on the black market.


Not only are physicians guilty of malpractice, including useless expensive procedures because they have a mortgage payment coming up, but are rewarded by big pharma for writing scripts if they push certain non-generic medicines (i.e. medical seminars in beach fronts locales with their families)and more lately big reductions in drug costs to pharmacies in cohoots with the doctor. (These aren't passed along to the patients).


Doctors are in business to make as much money they can from each patient encounter. I asked a doctor in a HMO practice out of all the adverse items he found about me (the better to treat you with my dear) why he never told me to lose weight. He said he did not want to insult me since he looked forward to that large satisfaction bonus he received from the HMO at year's end.


If you find a doctor who gives you good results for a fair price, hold on to him/her.

 
Old 04-21-2019, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I suffered with allergy and sinusitis all my life. Recurring postnasal drip, sinus pain, etc. Had the full spectrum of treatments and specialists all my life. Finally worked out my own home treatment which instantly controlled my problems and gave me relief without medication. One doctor prescribed me so many antibiotics that my insurer called me to find out if I was selling them on the black market.


Not only are physicians guilty of malpractice, including useless expensive procedures because they have a mortgage payment coming up, but are rewarded by big pharma for writing scripts if they push certain non-generic medicines (i.e. medical seminars in beach fronts locales with their families)and more lately big reductions in drug costs to pharmacies in cohoots with the doctor. (These aren't passed along to the patients).


Doctors are in business to make as much money they can from each patient encounter. I asked a doctor in a HMO practice out of all the adverse items he found about me (the better to treat you with my dear) why he never told me to lose weight. He said he did not want to insult me since he looked forward to that large satisfaction bonus he received from the HMO at year's end.


If you find a doctor who gives you good results for a fair price, hold on to him/her.
Totally agree with your story and I dealt with allergies and sinus issues and the drugs and allergist for most of my life before 1995 and NEVER getting better....drugs, injections, docs appts...and not better.

My friend told me that the docs she sees at her HMO have never talked to her about weight loss and that is one huge issue that would help her heart condition....lose weight, but no they ended up giving her 6-7 drugs when she went to them for heart palps. No money in getting patient healthier with weight loss. grrrrrrrrrrr

I found a great supplement in 1995 and have never taken another drug or an allergist in 25 yrs.

They need us to be sick.

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Old 04-21-2019, 11:45 AM
 
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We have no choice in an emergency, we have to trust doctors. Many people have had their lives saved by doctors, especially surgeons.
My friend from high school is a critical care surgeon at OHSU in Portland and deals with life and death situations everyday he is at work. Back in 2012 he saved the life of 15-year-old Kristina Shevchenko, who was shot in the side of the chest and seriously injured at the Clackamas Town Center shooting.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 12:10 PM
 
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On the other side of the coin being discussed. I have excellent doctors. I dumped the crappy ones until I found competence. Now that I have done that I'm sticking with them.

Yep. I have a long line of doctors I "fired" over the years and have my core group of doctors that are very good. I do not look forward to moving soon and having to start from scratch.

The good thing is I know them and know what to expect, and they know me, and what to expect. They know I follow instructions, eat well, exercise, and if I say "X", they believe me.

This group keeps me up and running at almost peak performance despite many medical problems.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:57 AM
 
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My eye exam wasn't free. My insurance doesn't cover eye exams. I pay for them each year. Lucky you that your exams are free.

A standard glaucoma test was done as part of my regular exam and negative per the doctor, but the doctor wanted a second, different glaucoma test based on "cupping" he said I had (no other doctor had ever mentioned "cupping"). the 2nd glaucoma test was an extra cost that I also paid for and was also negative.
Honestly, I don't think I would ever complain about having to pay for testing to ensure my vision isn't potentially affected by issues that could lead to blindness.


My mom is 63 and has spent her career as a teacher for the visually impaired. She has worn glasses since toddlerhood (pretty poor vision) and always paid high costs out of pocket for eye exams and glasses.



Quite ironically, 3-4 years ago she was diagnosed with inoperable gluacoma (she has childhood glaucoma), along with macular degeneration, and now cataracts (surgery scheduled for the summer). She paid hundreds of dollars for a second, third and fourth opinions with top opthalmologists to confirm the diagnosis and treatment plan. Her vision has deteriorated rapidly the past 18 months, and she is now legally blind in her left eye. Her physicians anticipate complete vision loss within 5 years.

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Old 04-22-2019, 11:00 AM
 
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Saying you distrust doctors is like saying you distrust all wait help.

It makes no sense, there are literally millions of doctors, and if you say you can't find one you trust, then perhaps once should look inward.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Honestly, I don't think I would ever complain about having to pay for testing to ensure my vision isn't potentially affected by issues that could lead to blindness.


My mom is 63 and has spent her career as a teacher for the visually impaired. She has worn glasses since toddlerhood (pretty poor vision) and always paid high costs out of pocket for eye exams and glasses.



Quite ironically, 3-4 years ago she was diagnosed with inoperable gluacoma, along with macular degeneration, and now cataracts (surgery scheduled for the summer). She paid hundreds of dollars for a second, third and fourth opinions with top opthalmologists to confirm the diagnosis and treatment plan. Her vision has deteriorated rapidly the past 18 months, and she is now legally blind in her left eye. Her physicians anticipate complete vision loss within 5 years.
Hearing this story is precisely why I work with eye supports to keep my good vision at almost 81. One can find so much info on this and how to help themselves and save their eyes.
 
Old 04-22-2019, 11:16 AM
 
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Saying you distrust doctors is like saying you distrust all wait help.

It makes no sense, there are literally millions of doctors, and if you say you can't find one you trust, then perhaps once should look inward.
For me, I've had doctors I trusted and who "did me good" in the years I was with them. I think OP was talking generally NOW and I feel that way more and more with my years. Every time now turns around there is new science, new facts, changes and it goes on and on, so we're supposed to blindly trust?

And as I see it, saying one distrusts doctors, has nothing to do with distrusting all wait help.

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Old 04-22-2019, 11:18 AM
 
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Hearing this story is precisely why I work with eye supports to keep my good vision at almost 81. One can find so much info on this and how to help themselves and save their eyes.
My mother was born at 27 weeks, it's literally a miracle she lived back in 1955. She was diagnosed with childhood glaucoma as a toddler. It's a malformation of the drainage canals in the eye, ost likely during gestation.



Nothing she would have used as "supplementation" would have changed a single issue she's having with her eyes today. She's going blind and there's nothing to be done about it.
 
Old 04-22-2019, 11:32 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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You should distrust them. Unfortunately the majority of the public though goes along with the "expert" opinion without questioning anything.

Oh yes also known in my world as the white coat syndrome LOL
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