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Differential rates and manners of travel. Check out a map of CoViD cases-- highest rates of infection mostly centered on international business/travel hubs.
I suspect, but haven't researched the numbers, that Americans travel within this big spread out nation a lot more frequently than many others do within their own countries. Domestic travel is relatively affordable to a larger percentage of the population and more may have the leisure time to make the trips. Also, because long distance travel ends up being via airline, not private car we end up crowding together for a lot more of the time. Humans are disease vectors in themselves, but so is mass transportation.
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Clearly not true, as evidenced by the spread in southern/southwestern areas..
It is spreading there, but spreading so fast as cooler locations? I don't see how it is possible to say one way or another at this time. IMO, it's still entirely possible that a seasonal lull could occur.
US has about the same population as Europe's big 5 (Germany UK France Italy Spain)
They have identified ~600k cases vs our 465k, but this is heavily dependent on testing.
Combined they have reported ~55k deaths vs our 16+k.
All figures are rising so it will be quite some time before the whole picture is known... if ever.
I don't believe the Chinese numbers.
Singapore has 5.7million residents. New York City has almost 19 million.
Citizens of modern Asian nations have been wearing masks for quite some time now so it's normative to their cultures.
Westerners have not had the need to wear masks until now.
US has about the same population as Europe's big 5 (Germany UK France Italy Spain)
They have identified ~600k cases vs our 465k, but this is heavily dependent on testing.
Combined they have reported ~55k deaths vs our 16+k.
All figures are rising so it will be quite some time before the whole picture is known... if ever.
I don't believe the Chinese numbers.
Singapore has 5.7million residents. New York City has almost 19 million.
Citizens of modern Asian nations have been wearing masks for quite some time now so it's normative to their cultures.
Westerners have not had the need to wear masks until now.
But each country has its own approach to solving the problem, some were reactive while others were active. Our problem was our leadership in denial that went from hoax to 200,000 death, both BS. The next thing we will hear is how great we handled the situation with only 70,000 dead.
You look at those Asian countries such as Japan. They've ALWAYS worn masks way, way before covid-19 started.....
Yea, and they also go to "Oxygen Bars." They're goofy....They just happened to be right about this one, but then, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
But each country has its own approach to solving the problem, some were reactive while others were active. Our problem was our leadership in denial that went from hoax to 200,000 death, both BS. The next thing we will hear is how great we handled the situation with only 70,000 dead.
So we have not responded as well as the UK? Germany??
The major differences, imo, are a derivative of when patient zero arrived in each region coupled with the speed of implementing mitigating policies. But in the end it seems to have made little difference as all five are now clustered at the top with us.
And NO western country responded fast enough because sufficient info was not available until the contagion had taken hold. The N-nought infection rate has been estimated at over 6 by some measures, which is akin to a fire in a haystack.
In the beginning of an epidemic people are often accused of over reacting.
At the end they are decried for not doing enough.
Too bad we can't see the future more clearly.
Reacting quickly to a problem when you are informed about it, and then having a cohesive approach.
Requires good leadership.
Disease isn't partisan. It does what it does, and people do what they do.
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Originally Posted by PamelaIamela
In the beginning of an epidemic people are often accused of over reacting.
At the end they are decried for not doing enough.
Too bad we can't see the future more clearly.
The United States has liberal reporting. According to Dr. Birx, we count all cases in which someone dies with covid-19. Some countries count only cases in which the person dies of covid-19.
Presumptive positives are also counted. People are being diagnosed by symptoms and exposure, without testing.
The United States has liberal reporting. According to Dr. Birx, we count all cases in which someone dies with covid-19. Some countries count only cases in which the person dies of covid-19.
Presumptive positives are also counted. People are being diagnosed by symptoms and exposure, without testing.
That is not true, and not what she said, no BS, please.
DR. DEBORAH BIRX: So, I think in this country we've taken a very liberal approach to mortality.
OK, I have no reason to doubt you. That sounds logical.
But still, people here in the US still weren't quick to wear masks when covid first started.
There weren't any masks to get, the were sold out everywhere almost immediately even though it was recommended we NOT wear them because A) they would do more harm than good and B) healthcare providers needed them. I have some N95's but everyone was saying we should donate them to hospitals because we didn't need them.
But the fact that they were all sold out quickly tells me that plenty of people did buy and wear them, you just didn't know any personally.
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