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Old 05-04-2020, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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The "goddam mainstream healthcare professionals" are the ones who discovered the problems with putting people on ventilators. That is why ventilator use is now a last ditch plan for people who are dying without one.
I always have thought advice coming from a person with zero knowledge of medicine is much better than the stuff that those goddam mainstream healthcare professionals spew out, don't you agree?
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Old 05-05-2020, 03:07 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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i always have thought advice coming from a person with zero knowledge of medicine is much better than the stuff that those goddam mainstream healthcare professionals spew out, don't you agree?
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Old 05-05-2020, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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The "goddam mainstream healthcare professionals" are the ones who discovered the problems with putting people on ventilators. That is why ventilator use is now a last ditch plan for people who are dying without one.
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Old 05-05-2020, 02:34 PM
 
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It's been covered on Medcram many times that the virus suffocates the cells of oxygen. And putting people on ventilator is the wrong treatment and our goddam mainstream healthcare professionals are killing people with their outdated prognosis.
Did you see/hear where YouTube is now removing Medcram (great medical information by an extremely qualified physician) videos because they don't approve?

Truly tragic and speaks volumes about YouTube and those who run the site. I'm just skipping YouTube and using the Medcram website.
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Old 05-06-2020, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Ontario, NY
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With so much enthusiasm on this thread, I hate to burst everyone's bubble, BUT- there are several medical/physiological inaccuracies stated in that article, something I'd expect from an ER doc whose experience includes mostly acute cases with little exposure to the pre-emergent period or follow-up period thereafter.
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The author is right that once put on a ventilator for CoViD, the pt is doomed (survival rates variously reported so far from 50 -10%). He talks as if earlier treatment will avoid that problem-- the problem is, there's no direct treatment for the virus and no way to slow its course. The deterioration of the lungs depends solely on the pt's own defense mechanisms.
The article was written by a well respected doctor, may I ask what your qualifications are to make the assessment tracking your Oxygen saturation levels provides no benefit? While I agree tracking your Oxygen saturation levels provides no benefit when your not sick, other than to get a baseline to test the devices accuracy, based on the information provided in the article, careful tracking when you obviously have COVID-19 are. While it's true no proven treatment will keep you from degrading to the point you need a ventilator, Dr. Richard Levitan stated that, "They needed to do what we call positioning maneuvers. So we put them in different positions to help open up areas of their lungs." This allowed them to keep 75% of the patients studied from needing ventilators.
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Old 05-06-2020, 01:49 PM
 
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Did you see/hear where YouTube is now removing Medcram (great medical information by an extremely qualified physician) videos because they don't approve?

Truly tragic and speaks volumes about YouTube and those who run the site. I'm just skipping YouTube and using the Medcram website.
I was wondering about that as I watched an update last night. he alluded to it but didn't say much specific. I mean, WTH? he's got really good vids and brings things down to a level most folks can understand.
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Old 05-06-2020, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Did you see/hear where YouTube is now removing Medcram (great medical information by an extremely qualified physician) videos because they don't approve?

Truly tragic and speaks volumes about YouTube and those who run the site. I'm just skipping YouTube and using the Medcram website.


Medcram is still on YouTube.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzx8LH4Fjic
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Old 05-06-2020, 04:04 PM
 
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Medcram is still on YouTube.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzx8LH4Fjic
I know Medcram is still available on YouTube, but YouTube has PULLED the ones they don't approve of. To see all the videos on COVID-19 you will have to go to Medcram's website to see the pulled videos.
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Old 05-06-2020, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I always have thought advice coming from a person with zero knowledge of medicine is much better than the stuff that those goddam mainstream healthcare professionals spew out, don't you agree?
I do, yes!
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Old 05-07-2020, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Any word yet? I ordered from them and got a robo "order placed" email. Then, sometime later I emailed to ask about delivery and they didn't respond. I got one elsewhere, but nevertheless was going to leave the order open, but because I waited a week and never got a response to my email inquiry, I've emailed again to cancel the order. Again, no response. <---at them, not you.



Did you get yours? Or any communication besides the robo receipt?
Sorry I missed this, we got an email a few days ago that ours has been shipped, I would expect that you will get one soon if not by now.
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