I really don’t see the appeal in The Woodlands (Houston: to live in, zip codes)

[Redlionjr]

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

Both of these but especially the Waterway are regional draws for the entire northern Harris County/Montgomery County area, so it's gonna pull from a much larger pool of people than just TW residents. The demographics don't lie. TW is one of the least diverse suburbs in Houston. Luckily it's gotten better but still a ways to go.

Exactly this. People from Conroe, Spring, NW Houston shop and visit The Woodlands regularly so you'll see all kinds of people at all the popular spots in TW. Drive through the neighborhoods though and it's a completely different story. And even at places like the Waterway you'll still stick out as a person of color.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Has anyone else noticed these “Woodlands copy cats” opening near the actual Woodlands? Particularly Springwood Village and the Woodlands Hills in Conroe. The latter even copied the name! Lol

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

Has anyone else noticed these “Woodlands copy cats” opening near the actual Woodlands? Particularly Springwood Village and the Woodlands Hills in Conroe. The latter even copied the name! Lol

Well … Springwoods village has an impressive corporate presence and they have the option of driving to downtown Houston without ever getting on I-45

[LocalPlanner]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

Has anyone else noticed these “Woodlands copy cats” opening near the actual Woodlands? Particularly Springwood Village and the Woodlands Hills in Conroe. The latter even copied the name! Lol

Springwoods Village has been renamed to CityPlace (which was formerly just the name of the urban town center portion).

The Woodlands Hills is by the same developer / owner as the The Woodlands, Howard Hughes Corporation, so maybe it's not surprising, though I would have chosen something a little more differentiating. I guess HHC was trying to communicate that The Woodlands Hills is basically, "The Woodlands...but now with hills!"

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by LocalPlanner

Springwoods Village has been renamed to CityPlace (which was formerly just the name of the urban town center portion).

The Woodlands Hills is by the same developer / owner as the The Woodlands, Howard Hughes Corporation, so maybe it's not surprising, though I would have chosen something a little more differentiating. I guess HHC was trying to communicate that The Woodlands Hills is basically, "The Woodlands...but now with hills!"

Yes I’ve mentioned all this before in this post (or they other Woodlands post idk).

On the City Place thing, I’m still unsure what’s going on with the naming. The Springwood Village signs are still up and the many other non town center portions have also maintained it. Such as Market @ Springwood Village.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by ParaguaneroSwag

I’m not the biggest fan of the woodlands but it’s definitely a lot more than just that. On site access to fine dining, on site high paying jobs, Cynthia woods pavilion (bringing A level acts), best suburban mall in the region along with the biggest concentration of high end shopping in the metro outside of River Oaks/Uptown. Other suburbs only offer a couple of those usually.

I would personally prefer Katy, Sugar Land, Pearland, etc because (similar to the reason I like Houston in the first place), they’re both more international.

Trails, trees, major roads like Woodlands Parkway that make it a lot easier to get out of than Kingwood, Clear Lake or Sugar Land.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by crone

Sorry, I was kidding.
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I know full well that unincorporated areas of Texas cannot even make a leash law without the consent of the legislature. And that counties in Texas have bo ordinance making ability. That's why we had to knock on doors to ask each homeowner to donate 25 bucks to support volunteer EMTs and buy a used ambulance back in the 70s. It took 25+ years to create a special purpose district for funding emergency services in unincorporated Texas.

It's just a damn shame that people move here from all over the world, see houses and shopping centers and think it's a city.

Too bad an area that would be the 5th largest city in the country, if it could incorporate, has no government but commissioner's court, a HOA and MUD.

Much of it would be part of the city of Houston if the state legislature was still as uninterested in those things as it was in the 80s.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by Redlionjr

More people of color are moving into The Woodlands(I see more Indian families moving into The Woodlands than I ever did when my Mother-in-law moved there back 2010/2011-ish, but it's still overwhelmingly White. That's not to say that it isn't any kind of diversity or things aren't changing but the dominant culture there is catered to Families with conservative values. Now it's not Branson Missouri but it's not that far removed from it either.

When me and my Wife lived there when we moved back to Houston it was culture shock all over again. We just came from Atlanta and the part of Atlanta we stayed in was very diverse. Moving to the Woodlands especially as a Black Man you're reminded of it when you stick out in certain places. Not saying I ever ran into any bigots but you would get subtle looks every now and than. Nothing asinine though. You definitely felt the heat during the elections. The Pro-Trump/ Q-Anon gang was out every day. Even a couple of weeks after the election. The Woodlands and Cypress area is probably where I see that crowd at the most in the entire metro.



Austin catches **** because the social fabric and dominant culture of Austin caters overwhelmingly to White people. While the local Black and Hispanic population feel's pretty much isolated from the Austin people adore and love.

Lets be clear, to you, diverse means a lot of Black residents. Houston MSA is much more typical of the country, about 17% Black vs. about 12% nationally and less white, only about 35%. Atlanta, by contrast, is not truly "diverse." It is very white/Black, about 50% white and 34% Black.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by bu2

Lets be clear, to you, diverse means a lot of Black residents. Houston MSA is much more typical of the country, about 17% Black vs. about 12% nationally and less white, only about 35%. Atlanta, by contrast, is not truly "diverse." It is very white/Black, about 50% white and 34% Black.

It doesn’t matter how you break it down. The woodlands is NOT diverse especially for Texas (let alone Houston) standards. If this doesn’t mean much to you, that’s fine. Some people don’t care about diversity and that doesn’t make you a bad person. But for those who do care, the Woodlands is not a melting pot. Who knows what the Woodlands/Conroe region will be like in 15 years. Since it’s rapidly growing, this could change. But it’s not there yet.

[ParaguaneroSwag]

Originally Posted by bu2

Trails, trees, major roads like Woodlands Parkway that make it a lot easier to get out of than Kingwood, Clear Lake or Sugar Land.

Yes all this too.