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No you are wrong... Have u been to Parkway Place lately the GAP store at Parkway Place moved to Bridgestreet! At one point they were considering keeping both open but the economy killed that idea.
Are you sure you don't mean Madison Square? I haven't been to either Parkway or Madison Square lately, so I don't know.
Remember when the Gap used to be in little boxy stores in malls? Well, Huntsville's in Madison Square was still in that little store years after most other Gap stores had expanded. I was in there one day about 1996 or so while DD was trying on clothes...I commented to the manager on the tiny store and added, "I'll bet you've got the highest profit per square foot in the SE." He replied, "the highest in the nation."
They got their bigger store about 8 or 9 months later.
For the Madison Square Mall, I would renovate it and let it live up to its title as the largest mall in North Alabama; I don't like the idea of turning into a lifestyle center or something of that sort because Huntsville is supposed to get several of those in the future! I know that there are a lot of stores that and we didn't name that Huntsville doesn't have and can support; so, I will get some stores that Huntsville doesn't have and put them in Madison Square Mall. I would bring the retailers that Madsion Square Mall once had, but doesn't anymore, if possible. I can't think of any stores that Huntsville doesn't have, but I am sure that there are alot more stores that Huntsville doesn't have; Madsion Square has enough slots and enough off the wall stores for me to bring in those stores that Huntsville doesn't have bsides the stores that we named! I would let Madison Square Mall have the same stores that the Galleria has, although they are a little similar.
For the Madison Square Mall, I would renovate it and let it live up to its title as the largest mall in North Alabama; I don't like the idea of turning into a lifestyle center or something of that sort because Huntsville is supposed to get several of those in the future! I know that there are a lot of stores that and we didn't name that Huntsville doesn't have and can support; so, I will get some stores that Huntsville doesn't have and put them in Madison Square Mall. I would bring the retailers that Madsion Square Mall once had, but doesn't anymore, if possible. I can't think of any stores that Huntsville doesn't have, but I am sure that there are alot more stores that Huntsville doesn't have; Madsion Square has enough slots and enough off the wall stores for me to bring in those stores that Huntsville doesn't have bsides the stores that we named! I would let Madison Square Mall have the same stores that the Galleria has, although they are a little similar.
I'm confused. So, underperforming stores like Eddie Bauer and The Disney Store (things that are about to be extinct) are going to return to a blighted, underperforming mall in a blighted area? And, it's going to attract new retailers that we don't have when there is a "brand new" relevant shopping center five minutes away?
If the mall does not undergo a massive reincarnation and is not reborn as something completely unrecognizable from its current state, if the strip centers around it do not also undergo a massive overhaul, if the hotel on site does not undergo a massive overhaul...
ONCE AGAIN, all these lifestyle centers that we are 'supposed to get', are just that - supposed-to-get is not reality. You can't think of any retailers we don't have that we can actually support because there aren't many! For Madison Square to survive, it needs to be way smaller than it is now. Way smaller. ONCE AGAIN, why is quantity better than quality? Who cares if we have the biggest mall in N Alabama? What kind of bragging rights are those? QUALITY.
For the Madison Square Mall, I would renovate it and let it live up to its title as the largest mall in North Alabama; I don't like the idea of turning into a lifestyle center or something of that sort because Huntsville is supposed to get several of those in the future! I know that there are a lot of stores that and we didn't name that Huntsville doesn't have and can support; so, I will get some stores that Huntsville doesn't have and put them in Madison Square Mall. I would bring the retailers that Madsion Square Mall once had, but doesn't anymore, if possible. I can't think of any stores that Huntsville doesn't have, but I am sure that there are alot more stores that Huntsville doesn't have; Madsion Square has enough slots and enough off the wall stores for me to bring in those stores that Huntsville doesn't have bsides the stores that we named! I would let Madison Square Mall have the same stores that the Galleria has, although they are a little similar.
I know you are going to bring in nearly extinct department stores like Lord and Taylor, and other places that can not even spell Huntsville, but do you even REALLY think there are five department stores to fill Madison Square anymore? I'm going to give you that answer -- NO.
Do you know of any new shopping center going in today ANYWHERE with five anchors? I'll give you that answer, too -- NO. There are barely five anchors to go ANYWHERE -- even big cities, in today's day and age. Gone are the days of having local dpt stores and national dpt stores. Do you see Madison Sq filling its 200 spaces with anything quality these days? Let's get real. For real. Please. Let's get real.
It needs to be smaller and sustainable.
See people on here are regular Alabama people who don't like to see situations for what they are; they also want to go around the situations and hate to see what may be reality. You all are so stuck on the bad economy to the point where it is just taking over your minds. First of all, the bad economy is not going to last forever! After the economy gets better, than nobody really has to worry about the state of Madison Square and the status of the proposed shopping centers. The economy is the blame for the proposed shopping centers and Madison Square's status and shape today. Some people are trying to save money, and spending less on clothes. They are trying to remain humble during these times, and they are being smart with their money. Most of the mall traffic that you see is people just having something to do. Y'all minds seem to be stuck on the economy to the point where just see things being scaled down. The bad economy isn't going last forever. After the economy takes a u-turn into success, who knows how shopping in Huntsville will change to be able to support new stores at Madison Square and new shopping centers.
And YES, there are several stores that we didn't name on here that Huntsville doesn't have and can support them; Huntsville doesn't has a lot of stores to point that it can support the shopping centers that are proposed. Madison Square can prosper with the stores that Huntsville doesn't have and can support. NOTE: the projects that are proposed don't just focus on shopping, they focus on offices, medical facilities, entertainment, and residential. Just have faith; don't be quick to say that things won't happen because of size! Huntsville is too big to only have 2 malls and a lifestyle center (BridgeStreet). I think that these proposed centers will spark gorwth in areas that lack retail. So I think these centers will do well because they are going to be built in different areas of Huntsville that can support them.
Well, I am just a simple-minded, regular Alabama person, but I am 100% sure these situations are not, singularly, about the economy at all. I never said that! These are a changed times. BEFORE the economy tanked, noone built malls with five anchors anymore. BEFORE the economy tanked, many retailers were having problems. BEFORE the economy tanked, Madison Sq was on its last leg. BEFORE the economy tanked, University Drive was nasty. BEFORE the economy tanked, developers stopped building new malls in favor of town centers, lifestyle centers, etc. (There were like only a literal handful of "malls" built over the past SEVERAL years) We are not stuck on the economy. Once again, you give me 200 relevant, realistic, non-endangered species of retail that Mad Sq/Huntsville can keep , attract, and support... and five anchors. I'll even let you disregard the economy. Good Luck.
It's about changing times. The economy is only one factor in changing times. Only one. And why do you insist on believing we can support two malls, a lifestyle center, newly-proposed mixed-use centers...when BEFORE the economy tanked, the centers we currently have weren't fully-leased?
Well, I am just a simple-minded, regular Alabama person, but I am 100% sure these situations are not, singularly, about the economy at all. I never said that! These are a changed times. BEFORE the economy tanked, noone built malls with five anchors anymore. BEFORE the economy tanked, many retailers were having problems. BEFORE the economy tanked, Madison Sq was on its last leg. BEFORE the economy tanked, University Drive was nasty. BEFORE the economy tanked, developers stopped building new malls in favor of town centers, lifestyle centers, etc. (There were like only a literal handful of "malls" built over the past SEVERAL years) We are not stuck on the economy. Once again, you give me 200 relevant, realistic, non-endangered species of retail that Mad Sq/Huntsville can support and five anchors. Good Luck.
It's about changing times. The economy is only one factor in changing times. Only one. And why do you insist on believing we can support two malls, a lifestyle center, newly-proposed mixed-use centers...when BEFORE the economy tanked, the centers we currently have weren't fully-leased?
Simple-minded, regular Alabama person,
David
I agree with you, Tampa is twice the size of H'ville and the surrounding area is home to over 2 million, only has 4 malls and 2 of them are struggling to keep a float before the economy tanked. One is an upscale mall built only a couple of years ago has already lost one big anchor with rumors of another anchor leaving. The mall is basically empty except during lunch hours. The other an old mall is over run with punks which drives most serious shoppers away.
KE is very young so maybe it will happen in his life time but even with the influx of 7-11k ppl possibly moving into the area that still is not enough to support another mall.
See people on here are regular Alabama people who don't like to see situations for what they are; they also want to go around the situations and hate to see what may be reality. You all are so stuck on the bad economy to the point where it is just taking over your minds. First of all, the bad economy is not going to last forever! After the economy gets better, than nobody really has to worry about the state of Madison Square and the status of the proposed shopping centers. The economy is the blame for the proposed shopping centers and Madison Square's status and shape today. Some people are trying to save money, and spending less on clothes. They are trying to remain humble during these times, and they are being smart with their money. Most of the mall traffic that you see is people just having something to do. Y'all minds seem to be stuck on the economy to the point where just see things being scaled down. The bad economy isn't going last forever. After the economy takes a u-turn into success, who knows how shopping in Huntsville will change to be able to support new stores at Madison Square and new shopping centers.
LOL, you named my problem, I have belonged in AL with my fellow "regular folk."
I grew up in Chicago and spent the last 8 years in the small town of Houston, those darn small town views. As for views on the economy, I keep telling people it isn't that bad(because I don't think it is), I have a husband who received a decent increase in salary and was offered several positions in several parts of the country, I have a house in Houston that construction couldn't begin until March-when we were looking since October because there were no contractors available-heck it took until the end of January to even get estimates Did I mention that patience was a virtue I didn't possess????
The bottom line is that people shop differently these days, and it seems that you are the only one that isn't getting that-maybe you would benefit from that AL mentality after all.
As an example, I am in Chicago right now where I have EVERYTHING at my disposal, last week I purchased spring clothes for the kids from Gap and Old Navy, both of which are less than 10 minutes away, instead I ordered online.
This week I purchased a few things from American Girl-20/30 minutes from here, I ordered them all online.
It takes me a TON less time, I don't have to worry about hearing my son complain about how many pairs of pants my daughter tries on, I can even order extra sizes and return the rejects in less than 5 minutes.
We did go browse at Barnes and Noble, but that happens once, maybe twice a year, online is VERY convenient, they never close, I can order things when I get a bout of insomnia, I can order in my jammies, life is good
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Did I mention that patience was a virtue I didn't possess????
