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Obviously, that's why people chise to evac in the first place. That doesn't chance the fact that I would be frustrated is I had spent potentially thousands of dollars to evacuate my family for essentially no reason.
It's a lose-lose with a storm this strong.
It would be money well-spent for peace of mind knowing myself and my family are safe. Not to sound cliche, but a house is replaceable, not a family. I realize not everyone has the resources to leave though.
Watching wave model, pressure models and trying to see this turn to North.
Finally see some drop in pressure in Jacksonville.
Believe tug of war is going on. Jose is helping to lower pressure below Cuba and helping to hold Irma South.
Rainstorms over East coast are helping to lower pressure on Florida.
Eventually Florida pressures are supposed to drop enough that Irma does a sudden zing across the water and heads North.
Several models now say it ain't going to happen and Irma will continue to track West and may even cross Cuba. It would then enter the Gulf big time and build big time.
That was the prediction I made two days ago. Only at that time it was based mostly on the low pressures being generated by Katia. Remember Katia?
Are you saying several models are saying that it will not make the northward turn?
And just saw on social media someone had a wave crash up and knock them over while they were busy filming with their phone on that live cam lol!
Mega YouTube followers/hits if he can save the video
People reward that behavior too much for rational thought to make an impact
Should fine the a-hole or make him do public service clean up work...
12 FT SEAS..420NE 30SE 30SW 120NW. WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.
REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 23.4N 80.5W AT 09/2100Z AT 09/1800Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 23.1N 80.2W
I would rather deal with that inconvenience than decide to stay and have made the wrong choice.
Great point and I do agree with this but you know there will be those who think opposite and thats why I posted what I did. "I fear" we'll be hearing that, means I hate to hear someone was pissed with leaving or prepping. They should feel lucky and happy nothing bad happened. (Talking in general!)
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Originally Posted by ilovemycomputer90
Yep, people will complain no matter what. I think the authorities have done the best they can.
True.. we see it time and time again.
And I dont want to see any death stats from this hurricane!
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Hurricane Irma Advisory Number 43 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL112017 500 PM EDT Sat Sep 09 2017
...EYE OF IRMA BEGINNING TO MOVE SLOWLY AWAY FROM THE COAST OF CUBA WHILE WEATHER IS DETERIORATING IN SOUTH FLORIDA... ...MAJOR HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXPECTED OVER THE FLORIDA KEYS AT DAYBREAK...
SUMMARY OF 500 PM EDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION ---------------------------------------------- LOCATION...23.4N 80.5W ABOUT 50 MI...80 KM ENE OF VARADERO CUBA ABOUT 115 MI...190 KM SE OF KEY WEST FLORIDA MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...125 MPH...205 KM/H PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 295 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...933 MB...27.55 INCHES
WATCHES AND WARNINGS -------------------- CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:
The Storm Surge Warning has been extended from the Volusia/Brevard County Line northward to the South Santee River.
The Hurricane Watch west of the Aucilla River to Indian Pass has been upgraded to a Hurricane Warning, and the Tropical Storm Watch west of Indian Pass to the Okaloosa/Walton County Line has been upgraded to a Tropical Storm Warning.
A Tropical Storm Warning has been issued north of Fernandina Beach to South Santee River.
The government of Cuba has discontinued the watches and warnings for Holguin and Las Tunas provinces.
SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:
A Storm Surge Warning is in effect for... * South Santee River southward around the Florida peninsula to the Suwanee River * Florida Keys * Tampa Bay
A Storm Surge Watch is in effect for... * North of the Suwanee River to Ochlockonee River
A Hurricane Warning is in effect for... * Fernandina Beach southward around the Florida peninsula to Indian Pass * Florida Keys * Lake Okeechobee * Florida Bay * Cuban provinces of Camaguey, Ciego de Avila, Sancti Spiritus, Villa Clara, Matanzas, and Havana * Andros Island, Bimini and Grand Bahama
A Hurricane Watch is in effect for... * North of Fernandina Beach to Edisto Beach * West of the Aucilla River to Indian Pass
A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for... * West of Indian Pass to the Okaloosa/Walton County Line * North of Fernandina Beach to South Santee River
A Storm Surge Warning means there is a danger of life-threatening inundation, from rising water moving inland from the coastline, during the next 36 hours in the indicated locations. For a depiction of areas at risk, please see the National Weather Service Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic, available at hurricanes.gov. This is a life-threatening situation. Persons located within these areas should take all necessary actions to protect life and property from rising water and the potential for other dangerous conditions. Promptly follow evacuation and other instructions from local officials.
A Storm Surge Watch means there is a possibility of life- threatening inundation, from rising water moving inland from the coastline, in the indicated locations during the next 48 hours. For a depiction of areas at risk, please see the National Weather Service Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic, available at hurricanes.gov.
A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected somewhere within the warning area. Preparations to protect life and property should be rushed to completion.
A Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are possible within the watch area. A watch is typically issued 48 hours before the anticipated first occurrence of tropical-storm-force winds, conditions that make outside preparations difficult or dangerous.
A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are expected somewhere within the warning area.
Interests elsewhere in Cuba and the southeastern United States should monitor the progress of Irma.
For storm information specific to your area in the United States, including possible inland watches and warnings, please monitor products issued by your local National Weather Service forecast office. For storm information specific to your area outside the United States, please monitor products issued by your national meteorological service.
DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK ------------------------------ At 500 PM EDT (2100 UTC), the eye of Hurricane Irma was located near latitude 23.4 North, longitude 80.5 West. Irma is moving toward the west-northwest near 9 mph (15 km/h). A northwest motion is expected to begin tonight with a turn toward the north-northwest on Sunday. On the forecast track, the core of Irma will continue to move near the north coast of Cuba during the next few hours, and will reach the Florida Keys Sunday morning. The hurricane is expected to move along or near the southwest coast of Florida Sunday afternoon.
Maximum sustained winds are near 125 mph (205 km/h) with higher gusts. Irma is a category 3 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale. Irma is forecast to restrengthen once it moves away from Cuba and remain a powerful hurricane as it approaches Florida.
Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 70 miles (110 km) from the center, and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 195 miles (315 km). Ft. Lauderdale/Hollywood International airport recently reported a sustained wind of 47 mph (76 km/h) and a gust of 70 mph (113 km/h).
The latest minimum central pressure reported by a NOAA Hurricane Hunter plane was 933 mb (27.55 inches).
HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND ---------------------- STORM SURGE: The combination of a dangerous storm surge and the tide will cause normally dry areas near the coast to be flooded by rising waters moving inland from the shoreline. The water is expected to reach the following HEIGHTS ABOVE GROUND if the peak surge occurs at the time of high tide...
Cape Sable to Captiva...10 to 15 ft Captiva to Ana Maria Island...6 to 10 ft Card Sound Bridge through Cape Sable, including the Florida Keys... 5 to 10 ft Ana Maria Island to Clearwater Beach, including Tampa Bay... 5 to 8 ft North Miami Beach to Card Sound Bridge, including Biscayne Bay... 4 to 6 ft South Santee River to Fernandina Beach...4 to 6 ft Clearwater Beach to Ochlockonee River...4 to 6 ft Fernandina Beach to North Miami Beach...2 to 4 ft
The deepest water will occur along the immediate coast in areas of onshore winds, where the surge will be accompanied by large and destructive waves. Surge-related flooding depends on the relative timing of the surge and the tidal cycle, and can vary greatly over short distances. For information specific to your area, please see products issued by your local National Weather Service forecast office.
The combination of a life-threatening storm surge and large breaking waves will raise water levels ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS by the following amounts within the hurricane warning area near and to the north of the center of Irma. Near the coast, the surge will be accompanied by large and destructive waves.
Northwestern Bahamas...3 to 6 ft Northern coast of Cuba in the warning area...5 to 10 ft
WIND: Hurricane conditions are expected to continue within the hurricane warning area along the north coast of Cuba through tonight. Hurricane conditions are expected in portions of the northwestern Bahamas tonight, and in portions of the Florida peninsula and the Florida Keys beginning Sunday morning. Tropical storm and hurricane conditions are expected to spread northward across the remainder of the warning areas through Monday.
RAINFALL: Irma is expected to produce the following rain accumulations through Wednesday:
Northern Cuba...10 to 15 inches, isolated 20 inches. Southern Cuba...5 to 10 inches, isolated 15 inches. Western Bahamas...3 to 6 inches, isolated 10 inches. The Florida Keys...10 to 20 inches, isolated 25 inches. The Florida peninsula and southeast Georgia...8 to 15 inches, isolated 20 inches. The eastern Florida Panhandle and southern South Carolina...4 to 8 inches, isolated 10 inches. Rest of eastern Georgia, western South Carolina, and western North Carolina...4 to 8 inches. Western Georgia, eastern and northern Alabama, and southern Tennessee...2 to 5 inches. In all areas this rainfall may cause life-threatening flash floods and, in some areas, mudslides.
TORNADOES: A few tornadoes are possible this evening and tonight over south Florida, expanding northward into central Florida on Sunday.
SURF: Swells generated by Irma are affecting the southeastern Bahamas, the Turks and Caicos Islands and the southeast coast of the United States today. These swells are likely to cause life- threatening surf and rip current conditions. Please consult products from your local weather office.
NEXT ADVISORY ------------- Next intermediate advisory at 800 PM EDT. Next complete advisory at 1100 PM EDT.
$$ Forecaster Avila
Great point and I do agree with this but you know there will be those who think opposite and thats why I posted what I did. "I fear" we'll be hearing that, means I hate to hear someone was pissed with leaving or prepping. They should feel lucky and happy nothing bad happened. (Talking in general!)
True.. we see it time and time again.
I dont want to see any death stats from this hurricane!
check your Direct messages Cambium..sent you something..
Are you saying several models are saying that it will not make the northward turn?
SpaceCity weather guy in Houston has had the Gulf route option on his last 3 posts...not highly rated as likely but he did consider that it had an outside (15-30%) chance...
Today when someone in Houston asked about it, he said not a TX landing
BUT
IF she gets into the Gulf and Katia is still throwing rain would that pull Irma toward Texas...
the Gulf seems too big for her to travel across but the water is warm...could she regenerate
And believe me I know most people who would consider the spending up,to,this point a drop in the bucket to having to rebuild a house lost to,storm surge/flooding w/o flood insurance
They can talk to Houston's thousands if they have a gripe...
NYTimes had big article about Tampa's even worse hubris about building codes and zoning for flood/storm damage than Houston
Don't have link right now but anyone has free articles per month
Go to NYTimes website and google it
If Tampa is hard hit they (developers, city leaders) will be also hit by sticks and stones of public opinion
Not that that will hurt them but voters might get some grassroots campaigns together...
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