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Old 04-07-2012, 09:25 AM
 
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“I had a lot of faith that they were going to let him go,” Jennifer says now. “He wasn’t a criminal, he had a family and a job. He wasn’t a threat to society.”

U.S Woman Moves with 4 Children to Join Deported Husband in Mexico - Hispanically Speaking News

What is it with these people? At what point do they acknowledge that they are criminals and not victims? What makes them think that we should ignore our laws to accomodate their illegal entry and extended lawless behavior? The fact that the current administration has emboldened illegals to the point that they think that the POTUS is obligated to intervene on their behalf to aid and abet them in their criminal mindsets and behavior is a disgrace.
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Old 04-07-2012, 02:53 PM
 
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It is criminal to work with fake or stolen ID's. I guess they don't think so.
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Old 04-07-2012, 03:40 PM
 
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U.S Woman Moves with 4 Children to Join Deported Husband in Mexico - Hispanically Speaking News

What is it with these people? At what point do they acknowledge that they are criminals and not victims? What makes them think that we should ignore our laws to accomodate their illegal entry and extended lawless behavior? The fact that the current administration has emboldened illegals to the point that they think that the POTUS is obligated to intervene on their behalf to aid and abet them in their criminal mindsets and behavior is a disgrace.
Great decision. Hasta la vista!

There is no reason for love not to exist in other countries. At least she has decided to keep the family together and now they are all legal.
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Old 04-07-2012, 04:49 PM
 
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It's always victim mentality...
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Old 04-07-2012, 06:33 PM
 
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Great decision. Hasta la vista!

There is no reason for love not to exist in other countries. At least she has decided to keep the family together and now they are all legal.
So once he serves out his ten-year (or less, if his wife can get it wavered) ban, this family of five U.S. citizens, and what will be one Legal Permanent Resident, can return to the United States? Of course they will need to come up with the sponsorship level, and she moves back with the kids right before, so there is a U.S. residence. But they can plan ahead for that goal.
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Old 04-07-2012, 10:53 PM
 
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So once he serves out his ten-year (or less, if his wife can get it wavered) ban, this family of five U.S. citizens, and what will be one Legal Permanent Resident, can return to the United States? Of course they will need to come up with the sponsorship level, and she moves back with the kids right before, so there is a U.S. residence. But they can plan ahead for that goal.
Why move BACK to the US? Is Mexico THAT bad?
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Why move BACK to the US? Is Mexico THAT bad?
I figured that with all the kids as U.S. citizens, they would want to come back. The oldest would be about 16 at that time. Then we have the extra effort to get them cycled back to English as their primary language.

But hey, if a ten year ban makes the point, it's worth it...
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:55 AM
 
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This is like the reverse thread to the one about amnesty. Check it out. People are worried on there about breaking up the poor families through deportation. Boo hoo.
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Old 04-08-2012, 06:26 AM
 
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I figured that with all the kids as U.S. citizens, they would want to come back. The oldest would be about 16 at that time. Then we have the extra effort to get them cycled back to English as their primary language.

But hey, if a ten year ban makes the point, it's worth it...
They also can hold Mexican citizenshhip. Let's face it they would probably get all kinds of welfare benefits for these kids if they returned here instead and that is the bottom line.
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:27 AM
 
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They also can hold Mexican citizenshhip. Let's face it they would probably get all kinds of welfare benefits for these kids if they returned here instead and that is the bottom line.
But their mother is a U.S. citizen (and is not able to hold Mexican citizenship without naturalizing there). I thought you said before that children should have the citizenship of the mother. Why does the abilities that any other qualifying citizen has get held from this family because one parent was an illegal alien?

You did say yourself that he would no longer would be considered an illegal alien, he has been repatriated to Mexico. Earlier I referenced that if he serves out his ten-year ban, can this family come back to the United States? When can he satisfy your judgement against him?

There is a woman I know of in almost the exact situation. She crosses on the weekday mornings for work in El Paso, bringing her U.S. citizen children to attend school in the United States. Her husband (father of all of the children) is also serving out a ten-year ban (they are probably about half-way through it at this point), it was later re-entries (I don't know if he was deported) that put the ban against him too.

It is an eventuality that they will return to the United States. You can't dismiss all of these children's claim to U.S. citizenship through their mothers, and being born in the United States. Just a factor of drawing benefits (to which the mother and children can immediately qualify for) should have no bearing on why that you think U.S. citizens have no right to live in the United States.

Happy Easter, and I mean that without rabbit, eggs, chicks, or chocolates...


EDIT: It is interesting to look at their background:

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...Jennifer, a native of Manitowoc, met her future husband 14 years ago when both were 18. The couple eventually settled in Manitowoc. He found a job at a restaurant as a cook.

Trouble began when the couple, on the advice of a Green Bay attorney, traveled to Mexico in 2002 to obtain a fiance visa to marry. The visa was denied because of Jaime's earlier illegal entry into the U.S.
(http://www.thebostonpilot.com/article.asp?ID=14539 - broken link)
So, 10 years ago (and before they had any children), on the advice of an attorney, they tried to do things the correct way...

Wow...

Last edited by IBMMuseum; 04-08-2012 at 10:22 AM.. Reason: To add sourcing...
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