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Old 06-27-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jjwebbster View Post
Gomexico, is that you ?????

Came from the 20s did you ? If you really think 12million uneducated, unskilled illegal aliens added to
the work force will create jobs, you must be delusional. They will create a welfare nation though. I'll grant
you that.

Revolution ? That's just funny. Do you think there were 12million illegal Irish here ? Can I borrow your
time machine on your next trip ?
But here's the rub. We can let Americans do these jobs, but even more will be on food stamps and such. Many illegals are not on them as of now. If only Americans do these jobs, nearly every single worker will qualify for all sorts of benefits.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:27 PM
 
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Them. You obviously don't know too much about migrants and Hispanics.
They have very very high illegitimate birth rates -- around 70% of their births are to unwed mothers, virtually all here illegally do not pay their hospital and medical bills, not even for their maternity care. Very high teen pregnancy rates.

You don't come illegally over the border to take the extra-low paying jobs that offer no benefits and have the highest of all birth rates if you're planning to pay your own way.

Latino poverty is rising, unlike other groups whose poverty rates are declining. Poverty in the USA means welfare handouts.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:37 PM
 
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That's funny, because the Census Bureau disagrees with you. Everyone is getting poorer except Asians. Persons Below Poverty Level in the U.S., 1975–2010 | Infoplease.com

You should be grateful that spreading lies and misinformation isn't a TOS violation.
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Old 06-28-2013, 12:31 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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But here's the rub. We can let Americans do these jobs, but even more will be on food stamps and such. Many illegals are not on them as of now. If only Americans do these jobs, nearly every single worker will qualify for all sorts of benefits.
No, Americans won't do farm work, mow lawns and scrub toilets and such. It's hard work that Americans won't do. I've seen the videos stating such from Pelosi, Obama, et al.

I'm worried once they are all legal there won't be anybody to take care of my lawn. And no more day laborers outside the Home Depot for those special projects.
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:37 AM
 
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So why not send the illegals back to Mexico and let the unemployed do it?
That's what I have been saying all along. Deporting illegals instead of granting them amnesty will free up jobs for unemployed Americans.

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No, Americans won't do farm work, mow lawns and scrub toilets and such. It's hard work that Americans won't do. I've seen the videos stating such from Pelosi, Obama, et al.

I'm worried once they are all legal there won't be anybody to take care of my lawn. And no more day laborers outside the Home Depot for those special projects.
Are you being sarcastic or serious?

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But here's the rub. We can let Americans do these jobs, but even more will be on food stamps and such. Many illegals are not on them as of now. If only Americans do these jobs, nearly every single worker will qualify for all sorts of benefits.
No truth to that at all. Many of the jobs these illegals are holding are entry level jobs for our American youth that still live at home so no they won't be on food stamps, etc. Many illegals are on government susidies now through their U.S. born kids. Jobs like construction and landscaping use to pay a liveable wage for Americans and therefore they didn't need government subsidies to survive.

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But if they verify employment, and can't hire illegals, there will be nobody to do the work.

Obama personally stated that illegals do the work Americans won't do and without illegals the country would screech to a halt.

There won't be any illegals. Is the country going to screech to a halt?
Obama stated it? There are 23 unemployed Americans so who do you think will do the work without illegals here?

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Robotics and automation that requires less man power to produce the same product. How many people did it take to farm 1000 acres in 1920? How many does it take today?

Besides, illegals that become legal will pay taxes, consume products, increase demand, and create more jobs.

Its what happened with the Irish, its happening now with Hispanics.

Welcome to the next revolution
If illegals were deported like our laws demand then Americans would once again be employed and therefore be paying taxes, consuming products, etc. and at a higher rate of pay so that would increase our tax coffers and buying power. We wouldn't have to cover the social costs of these illegals anymore either.

We aren't talking about Hispancis per se. We are talking about illegal immigration so why are you bringing up the Irish from the past?

Revolution? No illegal invasion!

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Old 06-28-2013, 07:17 AM
 
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The illegals need to learn english so they can give out orders to the unemployed american citizens who aren't getting any free help from our so called government.When illegals become legal we will see a new era of loud mouth protesting demanding what they think belongs to them.
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:29 AM
 
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Are you being sarcastic or serious?
I'm quite serious. Obama and Pelosi and the other liberal leaders would never lie and state that the economy was dependent on illegals because without them there wouldn't be anyone to do the work for such low wages.
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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We've been told for years illegals are needed because they do the work legal Americans won't do.

When all the illegals are suddenly legal, who's going to do all the work they presumably won't do anymore?
Why the next batch of illegals to come here.
We did this once before so you already know the ending.
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:17 AM
 
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Robotics and automation that requires less man power to produce the same product. How many people did it take to farm 1000 acres in 1920? How many does it take today?

Besides, illegals that become legal will pay taxes, consume products, increase demand, and create more jobs.

Its what happened with the Irish, its happening now with Hispanics.

Welcome to the next revolution
Uh; us "Irish" came here LEGALLY and we had NO welfare and so on. It was do or DIE and many of us died back in the day. It was NOT just greedy employers either; WE had a problem with drinking, fighting and so on with each other.
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:18 AM
 
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The current bill, will never slow illegal immigration. It will only encourage more illegal immigration. Its like pouring gasoline on a burning fire.
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