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Drunk driving (I just had an arrest a month ago 80 in a 50 weaving .194 blood alcohol)
Hit and run/no insurance
Burglary
Warrants for all types of crimes (they rarely show up to court)
Gang involvement/shootings
Drugs
Fights
Domestic violence(women and men illegal offenders)
Tax fraud( I've personally had several calls on this)
Fake social security cards
Criminal sexual assault/molestation
Murder
Theft.
These are the crimes that cost govts money. The insurance industry. Fraud on taxes. Millions on welfare(anchors)
Drunk driving (I just had an arrest a month ago 80 in a 50 weaving .194 blood alcohol)
Hit and run/no insurance
Burglary
Warrants for all types of crimes (they rarely show up to court)
Gang involvement/shootings
Drugs
Fights
Domestic violence(women and men illegal offenders)
Tax fraud( I've personally had several calls on this)
Fake social security cards
Criminal sexual assault/molestation
Murder
Theft.
These are the crimes that cost govts money. The insurance industry. Fraud on taxes. Millions on welfare(anchors)
My god man. Get your head out of the sand.
Yep, because no American citizen EVER robbed, murdered, or committed fraud
By all means, enforce the laws we already have, but it isn't worth it to go out of our way to deport millions of people when they could just enforce the laws already on the books and the handful of lazy ones will leave on their own.
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Liberal says "concerned with water shortages"
Then says illegal immigration (20 to 30 million) isn't a problem.
Gee, I wonder what's harder to live through: having your town run out of water, or having a neighbor named Carlos who washes dishes?
Don't forget healthcare and public education for illegals. I bet that costs a large part of it.
A drop in a bucket made up mostly of wasted spending on useless programs and the Imperial budget. Closing one base in a country we have no business being in in the first place would save more than deporting every illegal in the country would.
By all means, enforce the laws we already have, but it isn't worth it to go out of our way to deport millions of people when they could just enforce the laws already on the books and the handful of lazy ones will leave on their own.
Gee, I wonder what's harder to live through: having your town run out of water, or having a neighbor named Carlos who washes dishes?
But hey, they're the "deep state" so what do they know?
Whether you want to admit it or not illegal immigration is a huge problem in our country in so many ways. Yes, we have own home grown problems and we need to deal with them but let's not down play illegal immigration or make comparisons to justify it. Illegal aliens shouldn't even be in this country and yes they should be deported as they make themselves known. Removing the incentives for them to remain here will encourage many of them to leave on their own. I could provide many viable links proving that they are fiscal and social burden to our country but you'd probably dismiss them.
Okay, so how exactly do illegals cost the government that much money?
It would take them ALL being on welfare to cost that much. Not to mention a lot of that stuff (like fire protection) isn't even really an expense they make in any way other than their simply being human and being in the US.
I love how Trumpists just ignore any fact that disputes their absurd worldviews.
Bottom line is, illegal immigration is not a big problem. I'm a lot more concerned with water shortages, both present and coming, and antibiotic immune bacteria, than I am a few fruit pickers.
A few fruit pickers? Are you not aware that only 2% of illegal aliens are picking crops and that there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign workers for farm work? That means the rest aren't picking fruit they have taken jobs from Americans such as construction by working for less. Is it really necessary to refer to those of us who support our president to call them silly names such as "Trumpists"? Here's a link for you. I have many more. They supplement their wages with welfare.
Do you honestly think americans want to do the jobs they do. No one seems can answer that. I have never seen such hard workers in my life.
Just what are these jobs that Americans won't do for a fair wage and who do you think did them before millions of cheap, illegal aliens flooded our border? You never answer that question truthfully even though I have asked you before. You just keep repeating that they won't clean houses and hotels, etc. and I've asked since when but you never provide proof of it. Americans won't do construction work and all other blue-collared jobs either? Hard work does not excuse anyone for breaking the law either.
The pay is low because the illegal undercut the American a long time ago.
It's a little more complex than that, it started with union busting. It's ended up with temp agencies replacing union halls and paying people $10 an hour for work that used to pay enough to support a family. Illegals take those jobs because it's hard to convince a citizen that it's a good idea to tile a roof or stucco a house for minimum wage
A few fruit pickers? Are you not aware that only 2% of illegal aliens are picking crops and that there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign workers for farm work?
Once again...
"The share of hired crop farmworkers who were not legally authorized to work in the U.S. grew from roughly 15 percent in 1989-91 to almost 55 percent in 1999-2001. Since then it has fluctuated around 50 percent. Since 2001, the share who are citizens has increased from about 21 percent to about 33 percent, while the share who hold green cards or other forms of work authorization has fallen from about 25 percent to about 19 percent. "https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/farm...ackground.aspx
"Estimates of the number of farmworkers employed in the United States vary. According to Robert Guenther, senior vice president for public policy for the United Fresh Produce Association, a produce industry trade group, it’s about 1.5 million to 2 million. Of those, a large portion is illegal. Again, estimates vary, but Guenther puts it at 50 to 70 percent, a wide range. The Department of Labor, in its National Agricultural Workers Survey , puts it at 46 percent" https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.94b9b82c338a
"Wages rise on California farms. Americans still don’t want the job - Although Trump earned Klein’s vote, he worries that recent executive orders ratcheting up deportation plans and calling for a wall are putting a chokehold on an already tight pool of workers. “That’s killing our labor force,” says the 35-year-old grower.
Already, fewer Mexicans had been willing to risk border crossings as security and deportations escalated under the Obama Administration. At the same time, Mexico’s own economy was mushrooming, offering decent jobs for people who stayed behind"https://outline.com/kzTp27
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