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Old 04-15-2009, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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You really hit the nail on the head. Every time a shooting occurs in a black or Hispanic neighborhood, you see family members of the perpetrator defending the murderer as a "good kid" and "about to turn his life around." Instead of showing some introspection and remorse, you see them blame their precious one's actions on the police or anything else except the perpetrator himself. Pretty soon the black or Hispanic community leaders come jumping on the bandwagon. No lessons are learned and the next week another shooting happens in the same neighborhood.

Look at the contrast from the Asian-American community and the families of Asian-American murderers (like the Binghamton or Virginia Tech shootings). They immediately apologize to the victims' families and to their community; they don't make excuses. They feel an incredible sense of shame for what a family member has done, and they essentially disown the individual. Hell, the president of South Korea even personally apologized after the Virginia Tech shooting.

Consequently, Asian-American crime rate is the lowest in the country, even lower than whites. If you believe in education and personal responsibility, you will go far in America, and illegals broke that rule of personal responsibility when they chose to come to this country illegally.
How many Japanese are here illegally? Answer: very few-they strive to succeed. And they are more worried about what thier home country would think of them than what we would do. Can you image bieng forced to return to Japan as an illegal? Thier family would disown them for bringing shame to the family.
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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You really hit the nail on the head. Every time a shooting occurs in a black or Hispanic neighborhood, you see family members of the perpetrator defending the murderer as a "good kid" and "about to turn his life around." Instead of showing some introspection and remorse, you see them blame their precious one's actions on the police or anything else except the perpetrator himself. Pretty soon the black or Hispanic community leaders come jumping on the bandwagon. No lessons are learned and the next week another shooting happens in the same neighborhood.

Look at the contrast from the Asian-American community and the families of Asian-American murderers (like the Binghamton or Virginia Tech shootings). They immediately apologize to the victims' families and to their community; they don't make excuses. They feel an incredible sense of shame for what a family member has done, and they essentially disown the individual. Hell, the president of South Korea even personally apologized after the Virginia Tech shooting.

Consequently, Asian-American crime rate is the lowest in the country, even lower than whites. If you believe in education and personal responsibility, you will go far in America, and illegals broke that rule of personal responsibility when they chose to come to this country illegally.
Good catch there: although in all fairness; we may be dealing with different social classes-----------I strongly suspect that most Mexicans and Blacks who immigrated here legally on their own free will do have a sense of shame-----------not that 'you owe me' insolence. And said individuals are grateful to be living in the USA as well.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:36 AM
 
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You really hit the nail on the head. Every time a shooting occurs in a black or Hispanic neighborhood, you see family members of the perpetrator defending the murderer as a "good kid" and "about to turn his life around." Instead of showing some introspection and remorse,
Sandra Cantu a beautiful 8 years old hispanic girl was kidnapped, rapped and murdered.....The father of the suspect, Melissa Huckaby (Nor black or hispanic) is also saying that she is a "GOOD KID"......As you can see this has nothing to do with been BLACK or HISPANIC.
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Old 04-15-2009, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Pa
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How many Japanese are here illegally? Answer: very few-they strive to succeed. And they are more worried about what thier home country would think of them than what we would do. Can you image bieng forced to return to Japan as an illegal? Thier family would disown them for bringing shame to the family.
The term is distancing themselves. Bad Karma is a very real concern for them. You are correct that it would be very unusual for us to find illegal aliens from Japan. To be fair Japan is anything but a 3rd world nation.
The problem is when we allow offenders to make excuses such as the thread title. Look at the explosion of pedophiles who jumped on the excuse" I was molested thats why I do it". Total horse crap but amazingly enough we have bleeding hearts who actually accept such an excuse.
They came here for a better life. Lets examine this for a second.
Isn't that the excuse Bank robbers, car jackers, forgers, petty thieves,defruaders and others use? I robbed that store because I had no money. Katrina a famous scene during the looting. A woman was asked why she was stealing a TV. Answer They owe us for all the years we were oppressed..... In short all criminals use the same basic excuses and it all boils down to the same thing. Its not my fault.....
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:00 AM
 
Location: southern california
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gangbangers lookin for a better life.
starting with your car and wallet.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Pa
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gangbangers lookin for a better life.
starting with your car and wallet.
True.....
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Old 04-15-2009, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Sandra Cantu a beautiful 8 years old hispanic girl was kidnapped, rapped and murdered.....The father of the suspect, Melissa Huckaby (Nor black or hispanic) is also saying that she is a "GOOD KID"......As you can see this has nothing to do with been BLACK or HISPANIC.
What is your point?

All the more reason to deport illegal aliens---------we have enough homegrown trash here already. That Huckaby creature comes to mind.

Besides: were Sandra Cantu's parents here illegally to begin with?
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Old 04-15-2009, 02:12 PM
 
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What is your point?

All the more reason to deport illegal aliens---------we have enough homegrown trash here already. That Huckaby creature comes to mind.

Besides: were Sandra Cantu's parents here illegally to begin with?
A beautiful little girl was kidnapped, rapped and murdered and what bothers you is the fact that she could be here illegally? And even worst, trying to use this horrendous crime as justification to deport undocumented workers. That's exactly my point..........thanks for asking.
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Old 04-15-2009, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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If your forced to grovel in the desert for things to eat, and only live on a hundred or so bucks a year, and have to beg in order to feed your children, then I can honestly say, they are here to make a better life for themselves!

If its just to start a new drug cartel, or drug supply line or join a malicia and some other hate group, then NO, they should stay where they come from and we should make it our business to make sure they stay put!

You cant keep out illegal immigrants, because the Government doesnt WANT to keep them out! They are cheap labor, (you think only Republicans would want that!), and they will work for cheap, compared to some labor unions...(but, the Democrats like it because they are 'dependent' and needy and they love to keep people down on welfare in order to ensure that people will vote for them each time as they increase thier entitlements!).

Its a no win situation.... They put a drain on our Society, and are a burdon, plus they commit crimes and are not put in jail most of the time, but, let out to do more crime! (How many of them have records and rap sheets as long as your arm, and it isnt until they KILL SOMEONE that someone finally takes notice!!!).

We are in a loseing situation and it cant be stopped as long as the Government sanctions it.

May the LORD Bless each of you.

I wish you well...

Jesse
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Old 04-15-2009, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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A beautiful little girl was kidnapped, rapped and murdered and what bothers you is the fact that she could be here illegally? And even worst, trying to use this horrendous crime as justification to deport undocumented workers. That's exactly my point..........thanks for asking.
Try again: I inferred that Cantu's parents were here legally.

And what is wrong with deporting illegal aliens?? They have the same rights as other lawbreakers here in the USA.
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