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Old 05-25-2010, 02:41 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Semantics semantics, it all comes down to the summary that ALL Illegal Aliens have committed at least one crime just to get or stay here thus making them ALL deport-able, no exceptions.
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Old 05-08-2011, 08:15 PM
 
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Sounds like someone does not know how do do math. 1, 2 & 8 are all the same services. What about learning to subtract illegal's tax payer contribution with their fake social security numbers....

Im not saying we should give them a break...just saying we need to give accurate information. Overall, it is going to be a burden on tax payers to deport them.
Yep, glad you caught that. Apparently they have no confidence in their real case so making things up and lying through their teeth passes for justice in their neck of the country. Pathetic. Do your best not to elect idiots pandering to these yahoos. Neither are worthy of the country they claim to defend.

Truth be told if justice were delivered every single employer who has hired these illegals from day one should be handed the bill for deportation right along with every elected official shirking their duty willfully. Socialize the losses privatize the gains... shouldn't those characters be refreshing the tree of liberty about now? Instead morons chase hispanics around with zenophobic insanity while the very parties profiting from the situation whispered sweet evil in the ears of morons. They don't care, they make money either way.
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Old 05-08-2011, 08:38 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Until the Congress somehow edits or amends or otherwise qualifies the overly broad language used in the first line of the first section of the 14th... not much else that might be done -including fences or full up Greyhound Buses- will matter much.

Focus on this point folks.

If you don't already know Fred...

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To grasp American immigration policy, to the extent that it can be grasped, one need only remember that the United States forbids smoking while subsidizing tobacco growers.

We say to impoverished Mexicans, “See this river? Don’t cross it. If you do, we’ll give you good jobs, a drivers license, citizenship for your kids born here and eventually for you, school for said kids, public assistance, governmental documents in Spanish for your convenience, and a much better future. There is no penalty for getting caught. Now, don’t cross this river, hear?”



We have immigration because we want immigration. Liberals favor immigration because it makes them feel warm and fuzzy and international and all, and from a genuine streak of decency. Conservative Republican businessman favor immigration, frequently sotto voce, because they want cheap labor that actually shows up and works.
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Old 05-08-2011, 09:20 PM
 
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Yep, glad you caught that. Apparently they have no confidence in their real case so making things up and lying through their teeth passes for justice in their neck of the country. Pathetic. Do your best not to elect idiots pandering to these yahoos. Neither are worthy of the country they claim to defend.

Truth be told if justice were delivered every single employer who has hired these illegals from day one should be handed the bill for deportation right along with every elected official shirking their duty willfully. Socialize the losses privatize the gains... shouldn't those characters be refreshing the tree of liberty about now? Instead morons chase hispanics around with zenophobic insanity while the very parties profiting from the situation whispered sweet evil in the ears of morons. They don't care, they make money either way.
Chasing Hispanics? You mean chasing illegal aliens, don't you? It is moronic to go after illegal aliens? Xenophobic insanity? Uh, xenophobia is a fear of strangers. Just what ethnic group is a stranger to our country? To my knowledge we already have every ethnic group living in our country "legally" and most Americasn don't have a problem with that.

Both the greedy employers and the illegal aliens should be saught after and pay for their lawbreaking.
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Old 05-08-2011, 09:23 PM
 
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Until the Congress somehow edits or amends or otherwise qualifies the overly broad language used in the first line of the first section of the 14th... not much else that might be done -including fences or full up Greyhound Buses- will matter much.

Focus on this point folks.

If you don't already know Fred...
I see, so only cheap, illegal labor shows up and works? Stereotyping, much?

You forgot one point. The Democrats want them for future voters and to gain the vote of an ethnocentric group of ciitzens.
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:19 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Yep, glad you caught that. Apparently they have no confidence in their real case so making things up and lying through their teeth passes for justice in their neck of the country. Pathetic. Do your best not to elect idiots pandering to these yahoos. Neither are worthy of the country they claim to defend.

Truth be told if justice were delivered every single employer who has hired these illegals from day one should be handed the bill for deportation right along with every elected official shirking their duty willfully. Socialize the losses privatize the gains... shouldn't those characters be refreshing the tree of liberty about now? Instead morons chase hispanics around with zenophobic insanity while the very parties profiting from the situation whispered sweet evil in the ears of morons. They don't care, they make money either way.
Illegal immigrants are not just Hispanic. The majority of them indeed are.
The insanity is chasing around Hispanics trying to get votes and keep their party in office while we shell out billions to people breaking a full menu of laws with impunity, all with the excuse that it's for the Hispanic vote. Are these Pro-illegal Americans traitors that scream racist and xenophobes at any mention of treating criminals here from another Country as equals when it pertains to our laws? Which flag are they loyal to?

There are officially two sets of implied laws in this Country. One for the illegals and another, much tougher, set for American Citizens. Apparently our elected officials are quite ok with the Citizens fighting like dogs over all issues impacting our daily lives while they look the other way. In the end they are still in power and that is all that matters to them.

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Old 05-09-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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why do we have to debate and discuss. what part of illegal is so difficult. our government needs to enforce the law.

Talk to you current President! if he has his way which he hopes to, illegals will have a pretty clear path to citizenship, coming near a town near you!
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:27 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Who has the sense of entitlement? Certainly not Negarapola! It is a fact. Illegals drive without licenses, cross the border against the law, pay smugglers to get here (illegal activity) get jobs with fake I.D. register for all benefits, crowd hospitals, pharmacies, schools, post-offices (sending the bucks back) change their names every day (undocumented) so no one knows who they really are, do not sign up for Selective Service, and now want tuition remission to go to college to get the jobs you want....they are draining this country (over 200 billion per year) Obama has expanded social programs....we are no longer a country but a world wide social service organization......these illegals are allowed to break every law...so why should we ever go to court for anything? We should demand equality....no laws apply to illegals...no laws should apply to us....anarchy in the making???Right on negarapola...it used to be a badge of honor to be an American and respect all of its laws including border laws....

Very true what you say. But they would not be able to do any of this, if our Government, and President were not so soft on them, think they can't see this.
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Old 05-11-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Undisclosed Bunker
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Talk to you current President! if he has his way which he hopes to, illegals will have a pretty clear path to citizenship, coming near a town near you!
Oh sure, the millions upon millions of illegal invaders that are in this country are going to be glad and willingly to:

1) Admit they broke the law
2) Pay back taxes and a fine
3) Learn English
4) Be willing to undergo background checks
 
What a joke. How many are going to take the offer when dozens of sanctuary cities are popping up all over the country? 1%? 2%?

The truth is illegal immigration is destroying the middle class. There are simply not enough jobs for everyone as it is. Wages have been driven down for the blue collar workers lucky enough to still have a job.
Still thousands pour over the border each day. Many carry diseases and go to work picking berries and work in restaurants handling the food we eat.
Obamas solution? Amnesty
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Old 05-16-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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I think you're forgetting some important laws: all illegal aliens are entitled to do what they please and receive US taxpayer-funded services & welfare benefits due to their social status/nationality/ethnicity/race/etc. They may have violated many laws which US citizens are never allowed to violate but said conditions justify them receiving guaranteed free passes for such.

Challenging the legality of illegal alien criminal activities will not be tolerated by the Mexican government, ACLU, La Raza, MALDEF, LULAC, MEChA, etc. because doing such will ALWAYS be considered hate speech and can ONLY come from the mouths of uneducated, xenophobic and anti-hispanic rednecks.

Illegal aliens >>>>> your Yanqui gringo opinions.
Receive benefits...sounds like someone OKed that that action; do you think the illegals voted these "benefits in???

Even if you started deporting today...every one of these laws would still be on the books.
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