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Old 01-21-2010, 06:49 PM
 
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There are 260 million non-hispanics in this country vs about 40 million hispanics. Now who do you think has the most clout in this country with our politicans?

So you admit that most Hispanic citizens are all about getting amnesty for their ethnic kind here illegally? What does that say about them? Do you think they have the national interests in their minds or their own ethnic agenda?

Sorry, but I have to repeat once again. There will be no amnesty. Most Americans don't want it.
Judging by the rate that the avg hispanic has babies there will be like 50 million hispanic next year.

Blacks are like 40 million and lets face it, they are not voting for a white republican in general (unless it is bush who wins 18% of their vote in Ohio) esp. with obama in da house-raise da roof! who who who, LOL

So whites are like 200 million. the other 10 asian and in general immigrants or pro immigrant.

No lets not devole into race baiting, but there are some obvious facts.

Certain senators from certain states have to vote for legalization, like John McCain, your not getting elected in a state who has spanish as an official language or is like 45% spanish talking about deporting every mexican.

Ya white people are the majority but those states that are strong in white people in terms of numbers are generally not swing states and will only vote 1 way. It don't matter in this economy what happens with illegal imm. gay pro abortion lesbians are not going to vote for republicans. Wyoming is not going democratic like mass. is not going republican.

Since when has american polictriks ever been about what americans want, americans don't want taxes but we have them, americans never wanted blacks in the school but there they are, americans never wanted to serve in vietnam but they did.

Mind you there are small groups of other imm. illegally here who are not hispanic but yeah, I'd imagine if there were 20 million illegal chinese in america or africans that la raza probably would not be made up of all hispanics.
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Old 01-21-2010, 06:51 PM
 
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LOL, I won't have to prove my claims illegal imm. live in the shadows there is no way to prove you illegally crossed a border at such and such a date. Besides what are they going to do if i lie? Deport me, LOL they have to deport 20 million liars ahead of me, LOL.
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Old 01-21-2010, 06:58 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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There you go, by Americans attacking the companies it will show 2 major things imo:
1) Americans know who is at the root of this problem.
2) Stop the endless cycle of racism allegations (make race a non-factor)


Hey i'm all for it LETS GO. We should know who is doing the hiring of illegals should we not. Lets go after these comapnies, and expose them i'm for it.
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Easy counter.

Americans should march too. However, instead of marching against illegals, march against the companies that hire them.

Hold signs up high with company and CEO names on them.

Here goes some companies: WeHireAliens.com--Illegal Alien Employer Database brought to you by the FIRE Coalition
Why not march against both?
I hate chop shops. I also hate the thieves that supply them. For that matter I hate the scum bags that buy from them.
So why not march against all sides of this triangle.
Employer
illegal
Elected reps who cater to the above.
No way do illegals rate a walk for their part.
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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See I think amnesty will happen because those bleeding heart liberals are in power in congress, it is not like the congress is stacked with those republicans many of whom personally don't want illegals. It is not really Obama who I think will pass, I know congress will pass it because of the latino vote is growing. The more that congress holds back on legalizing illegals, the more they look bad to latinos, the more they look anti-latino.

@benicar, the diff. b/w mean and other illegals is that I just tell it how it is. some people don't like that, but thats too bad, thats how it really is. Illegals will get legalized even though many americans don't like it. When you have Bush, McCain and Obama agree on something, it generally happens.

Sure Obama is not going to legalize illegals like tomorrow morning, but it will happen this year, likely when by the mid year the process will start and the public will hear of it by the last 3 months of the year.

the diff. b/w obama and bush is that Obama is of the party that will benefit from legalizing mexicans who will vote for him. The dems know that they are not going to last for another election in congress so they are going to pass legalization anyways.

Obama has made all the good arguments for legalization already, he is not like bush who is waiting around for criticism.
Not in this deep recession. Too, with Mass electing a Republican as governor two days ago------------the Dems would be wise in NOT pissing off the American people with any sort of amnesty talk.

If anything: it would behoove the remaining illegals to leave the USA while it is still safe to do so unhassled by LE.
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Judging by the rate that the avg hispanic has babies there will be like 50 million hispanic next year.

Blacks are like 40 million and lets face it, they are not voting for a white republican in general (unless it is bush who wins 18% of their vote in Ohio) esp. with obama in da house-raise da roof! who who who, LOL

So whites are like 200 million. the other 10 asian and in general immigrants or pro immigrant.

No lets not devole into race baiting, but there are some obvious facts.

Certain senators from certain states have to vote for legalization, like John McCain, your not getting elected in a state who has spanish as an official language or is like 45% spanish talking about deporting every mexican.

Ya white people are the majority but those states that are strong in white people in terms of numbers are generally not swing states and will only vote 1 way. It don't matter in this economy what happens with illegal imm. gay pro abortion lesbians are not going to vote for republicans. Wyoming is not going democratic like mass. is not going republican.

Since when has american polictriks ever been about what americans want, americans don't want taxes but we have them, americans never wanted blacks in the school but there they are, americans never wanted to serve in vietnam but they did.

Mind you there are small groups of other imm. illegally here who are not hispanic but yeah, I'd imagine if there were 20 million illegal chinese in america or africans that la raza probably would not be made up of all hispanics.
Remember that White Anglos tend to vote in higher numbers than any other race/ethnic group here in the USA.

Just affect the fact there will be no amnesty; and if here illegally-----------leave. We do not want their criminal kind.
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Judging by the rate that the avg hispanic has babies there will be like 50 million hispanic next year.

Blacks are like 40 million and lets face it, they are not voting for a white republican in general (unless it is bush who wins 18% of their vote in Ohio) esp. with obama in da house-raise da roof! who who who, LOL

So whites are like 200 million. the other 10 asian and in general immigrants or pro immigrant.

No lets not devole into race baiting, but there are some obvious facts.

Certain senators from certain states have to vote for legalization, like John McCain, your not getting elected in a state who has spanish as an official language or is like 45% spanish talking about deporting every mexican.

Ya white people are the majority but those states that are strong in white people in terms of numbers are generally not swing states and will only vote 1 way. It don't matter in this economy what happens with illegal imm. gay pro abortion lesbians are not going to vote for republicans. Wyoming is not going democratic like mass. is not going republican.

Since when has american polictriks ever been about what americans want, americans don't want taxes but we have them, americans never wanted blacks in the school but there they are, americans never wanted to serve in vietnam but they did.

Mind you there are small groups of other imm. illegally here who are not hispanic but yeah,
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I'd imagine if there were 20 million illegal chinese in america or africans that la raza probably would not be made up of all hispanics.
LaRaza most lkely wouldn't exsist. Their concern is "Latino's" and Latino's only. Speaking of "Racist".
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:00 PM
 
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LOL, I won't have to prove my claims illegal imm. live in the shadows there is no way to prove you illegally crossed a border at such and such a date. Besides what are they going to do if i lie? Deport me, LOL they have to deport 20 million liars ahead of me, LOL.
Thanks for sharing with us a look into the illegal alien mindset. It just reinforces our opposition to any amnesty.
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:18 PM
 
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Judging by the rate that the avg hispanic has babies there will be like 50 million hispanic next year.

Blacks are like 40 million and lets face it, they are not voting for a white republican in general (unless it is bush who wins 18% of their vote in Ohio) esp. with obama in da house-raise da roof! who who who, LOL

So whites are like 200 million. the other 10 asian and in general immigrants or pro immigrant.

No lets not devole into race baiting, but there are some obvious facts.

Certain senators from certain states have to vote for legalization, like John McCain, your not getting elected in a state who has spanish as an official language or is like 45% spanish talking about deporting every mexican.

Ya white people are the majority but those states that are strong in white people in terms of numbers are generally not swing states and will only vote 1 way. It don't matter in this economy what happens with illegal imm. gay pro abortion lesbians are not going to vote for republicans. Wyoming is not going democratic like mass. is not going republican.

Since when has american polictriks ever been about what americans want, americans don't want taxes but we have them, americans never wanted blacks in the school but there they are, americans never wanted to serve in vietnam but they did.

Mind you there are small groups of other imm. illegally here who are not hispanic but yeah, I'd imagine if there were 20 million illegal chinese in america or africans that la raza probably would not be made up of all hispanics.
Still a drop in the bucket compared to our non-hispanic population. In another year so will the population of non-hispanics increase. One can't vote till they are 18 years old anyway. But thanks for acknowledging that they breed like there is no tomorrow. Is that something to be proud of?

I really don't care what ethnicticy our president is just as long as he works for the national interest and all Americans instead of playing identity politics or playing up to special interest groups who have an anti-American agenda.

We are all pro-immigrant so what are you talking about? Most Americans do oppose illegal immigration however. How many states have Spanish as their official language? If a state is 45% of Hispanic ancestry then that means there are 55% who are not. Do the math. Why are you making this a Mexican illegal issue? If there is no amnesty it would affect ALL illegal aliens. As has been mentioned in here numerous times there is not plan for mass deportations anyway. E-verify and other steps taken will make most self-deport. What makes you think that a non-amnesty stance is only a Republican one?

You're right this government hasn't been for the people and by the people for some time now but Americans are really fed up now and we intend to change that kind of thinking in congress.

La Raza wouldn't exist if not for Mexicans and other Latinos making up the majority of illegals in this country. They don't care about the Chinese or any other ethnic group anyway.
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Old 01-25-2010, 05:51 AM
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