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I'm american-born, brown-skinned, and I have been racially profiled at the airport for years. So somehow that's ok while profiling for illegals is not?
Nowhere in the OP was the Arizona law mentioned. This forum is about illegal immigration, not Arizona law. Not every thread is supposed to be about the Arizona law. Nice way to avoid the topic at hand.
Okay, the topic at hand. A guy was asked to prove citizenship by an agent of law enforcement whose job it is to do so. He didn't like it. If he genuinely thinks he was mistreated, he should take it to court. If it's revealed that he was, then the officer deserves whatever punishment the court deems appropriate.
The pro-illegals are jumping to conclusions as usual without having all the facts. I remember the incident somewhat and U.S. Customs was involved. Indeed there was more to this story and it wasn't cut and dried like the pro-illegals try to claim.
We haven't heard even one whisper about this incident since it happened so I tend to blow it off. If the guy was jumping up and down, threatening a lawsuit or something, then I'd be more apt to 'wonder'. I wonder what he was hauling. Did anyone ever say?
i also smell a rat
more to tha story than bein told by tha man
Like I wrote above...if the guy was jumping up and down, threatening a lawsuit, I'd be more convinced he was treated unfairly. Till then I'll keep my opinion that there's more to this than was reported.
He didn't say he provided his SS card. He said he provided his SS#. He had a valid driver's license and a SS#....end of story. He was obviously racially profiled because he spoke poor English. My guess is ICE thought this guy stole someone's identification because he spoke poor English and basically looked like an illegal to them so they wanted to see that he had a hard copy of a birth certificate.
Ahhh, okay. I read it too fast, I guess.
Doesn't it kinda make you wonder how a guy who was born in CA and lived in the US all his life hasn't 'lost' some of that accent? Maybe that's what ICE was wondering. Not saying they were right or wrong but I'm sure it would make them wonder.
Yes, you're right, this has nothing to do with SB1070....not only is the law not in effect yet but, this incident involved ICE at a wiegh station in a suburb of Phoenix (202 and Val Vista). That means it was federal authorities doing this not, local LE. Besides that the SB1070 law states that showing an AZ drivers license to LE while being stopped for a traffic violation by them, is enough to automatically assume the person is here legally and therefore gives LE no reason to suspect otherwise.
The problem this truck driver had is with the federal government and their enforcement of federal immigration laws, Arizona's SB1070 doesn't allow for this to happen.
This is interesting. Could you elaborate a little more?
How do you figure it will get worse? Local LE doesn't run the wiegh stations but, if they did, AZ law states that LE must assume a person is here legally if they show an AZ driver's license.
Unlike federal law, the AZ law doesn't allow for profiling, it specifically states color, race or country of origin CAN NOT be ised to establish reasonable suspicion.
The law hasn't gone into effect yet and already there are problems.
The law hasn't gone into effect yet and already there are problems.
Correction - this incident happened before the law was even signed so I fail to see how federal officials operating under federal law mean problems for what state officials will do operating under state law
This is interesting. Could you elaborate a little more?
Not sure what he can expand on. It's all pretty factual.
This was before the AZ law was signed and is based on federal jurisdiction and federal law.
The guy wasn't pulled over. He was a commercial truck driver who had to go through a weigh station.
At the weigh station ICE (federal) were asking questions and they must not of liked his answers so they detained him until they could get one that fit their standards.
In the AZ law presenting an AZ DL would be sufficient to remove reasonable suspicion of status and the driver would not of been able to be questioned any further. This is the wording within the law.
If this was the AZ law he would not of been detained.
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