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Old 05-25-2016, 07:49 PM
 
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that is why i laugh at reading these solutions to the most complex financial issues the world has seen .
I laugh at that one, it is an inside joke that I care not to share.
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they have all the solutions to all the issues , based on the seat of their pants
That is about the long and the short of it.
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or what they hear other mis-informed economist wannabee's parrot . .
Can you find where I'm quoting someone else without giving credit where it belongs?
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in the mean time many of them believe so much bunk to be true they fear acting doing anything that improves their financial outcome .
I read a paper once that talked about what age the crops of richest people in the world were, you get a cluster of them the same age and at the same time.


Bill Gates he started in the late 1970's. The economy sucked then, it was a good time to start to build a fortune. Now is the time to start to build a fortune if you are so inclined to do so. I'm taking my shot at it.


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I know what you mean re: The Federal Reserve.

Unfortunately, I think the only correction that's possible in these times is a complete collapse... one he!! of a reset button. People will die; it will be beyond devastating. I wish it didn't have to happen but it will happen. The current economic situation and its possible outcomes are not sustainable. And with how so many pretend that the threat isn't there (or simply don't know), that will make it all worse. Those who aren't prepared will not be.
Someone else's opinion.
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Old 05-25-2016, 08:40 PM
 
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Actually, mistakes are made by those regarded with authority. Like the saying Question Authority, makes sense. Too me it is pretty obvious the Fed is afraid of asset prices lowering hence signaling an economic slowdown but it may be just a temper tantrum.
Yellen has stated she wants housing to drive the recovery.
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Old 05-26-2016, 01:22 AM
 
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It doesn't not directly, but it doesn't cost any money to do so and it gets me out of the weather and keeps me busy.
I'm not in the financial game, not in the job game, But there is a small amount of influence that an anonymous person on a message board can influence regarding the direction the world goes.
keep thinking that you complaining here that anything will change . i have not seen a thing change over the 40 years of me working .

i am the one that gets up every day , goes to work day in and day out and is responsible for everything good or bad in my life .

ultimately you are in the drivers seat and ultimately it is you that needs an actionable plan . you want to complain after you are on a successful path ? that is fine but devoting time and resources to doing nothing actionable and just complaining is sure to lead you down a path of financial suicide
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Old 05-26-2016, 01:24 AM
 
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Can you find where I'm quoting someone else without giving credit where it belongs?
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we all draw opinions from different sources . we tend to parrot and support those who share the views we adopted as our own from others .

but many times our views are taken from other mis-informed people .
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Old 05-26-2016, 03:34 AM
 
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I'm not in the financial game, not in the job game, But there is a small amount of influence that an anonymous person on a message board can influence regarding the direction the world goes.
How have you influenced the world today?
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:52 AM
 
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keep thinking that you complaining here that anything will change . i have not seen a thing change over the 40 years of me working .

i am the one that gets up every day , goes to work day in and day out and is responsible for everything good or bad in my life .

ultimately you are in the drivers seat and ultimately it is you that needs an actionable plan . you want to complain after you are on a successful path ? that is fine but devoting time and resources to doing nothing actionable and just complaining is sure to lead you down a path of financial suicide
I am disabled, when I had an adequate support structure I was working just fine, take that away and I've missed 15 years of work.


You play the cards you were dealt, and I'll play the cards I was dealt.


I've seen a $10 hr minimum wage hit the national agenda, and I've seen a $15hr minimum wage hit the national agenda. Japan is doing some of the things I've been talking about.
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Old 05-26-2016, 09:56 AM
 
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How have you influenced the world today?
Influence Vs. control. Control is easy to track, influence is less so.


I've said some things to some people, then seen some changes in how things are done. With the way you've twisted what I've said I care not to share what those things are with you.
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Old 05-26-2016, 10:02 AM
 
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Actually, mistakes are made by those regarded with authority. Like the saying Question Authority, makes sense. Too me it is pretty obvious the Fed is afraid of asset prices lowering hence signaling an economic slowdown but it may be just a temper tantrum.
Bias, there are a lot of vested interest exercising influence for their own gain. That at time happens at everyone else's expense.


Targeting 20% inflation is achievable. A 2% real inflation rate isn't. You can go from 20% to 2% inflation rate, it is very hard to go from 2% deflation to 2% inflation, without going through 20% inflation first.
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Old 05-26-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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we all draw opinions from different sources .
I tend to read the first 2/3 of papers and books on economics. The reason I don't read the last 1/3 is that is where they draw their conclusions. I think through their research and draw my own conclusions.
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we tend to parrot and support those who share the views we adopted as our own from others .
I agree with the first part of this, the second doesn't tend to hold with me. I've got a thinking disorder, I can do it.
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but many times our views are taken from other mis-informed people .
In most cases you are 100% correct.


The way the math is set up in economics determines what you see. Set the math up differently and you see different things.


Economics is bad for having started with a political agenda and making the math fit the agenda. Capitalism, Socialism, I think I belong to practicalism.
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Old 05-26-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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Obviously non of us on this board can truly influence economic policies but we can complain, voice concern & state the obvious. My original post was simply complaining that the path we are on seems to be creating bubbles which at some point in time the Fed will have to come up with an actionable solution to QE tactics. Wall Street will never cheer Fed tightening and will continue with the ME, ME, ME attitude as opposed to what is the most healthy for our long term economic stability.
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