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I am embarking on a project to learn Arabic, so at least no one can throw at me, the claim that one cannot understand the Quran without knowing Arabic. [My personal claim is one can understand Islam via the English translations -at least 30 and the various commentaries in supplement with knowledge of human nature]
I have visited a few sites and covered in theory [only] the 28 alphabets, the connectors [beginning, middle, end], the vowels, diacritic marks, etc.
I have also covered the Tajweed and makharij elements [theory].
Any one has suggestions of shortcuts [accelerated learning techniques] on how I can speed up learning to write, read and speak Arabic in a shorter time than normal.
If you have the time
Look for the word Farrakhan
Because it is the key proof that the deception is in the translation of the Qur'an
And also in the interpretation of the Koran verses in which the word Farrakhan
And save a lot of Muslims who do not know Arabic.
The literal translation to that book no doubt
Because I miss the knowledge in the English language
The word (also name) Farrakhan means "charmer" and "Farhan" in Egyptian Arabic means "happy". It is obvious that you do not understand Arabic or else you would not bring up this word (Farrakhan). Perhaps you are mixed up in your understanding of the word "furqanan" فُرْقَانًا in 8:29. Once again, you missed the difference in Q and K. You must not mixed them up.
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Because it is the key proof that the deception is in the translation of the Qur'an
It is the key proof that you do not understand Arabic.
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And also in the interpretation of the Koran verses in which the word Farrakhan
And save a lot of Muslims who do not know Arabic.
Serious readers like Continuum will find the meanings sooner or later. There is no deception. It is just a matter of saying 6 or half a dozen. Both would mean the same thing.
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The literal translation to that book no doubt
Literal translation is not "that book" but the literal translation is "that the book". And despite my trying to get you to understand it, you are still stuck in your faulty literal translation.
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Because I miss the knowledge in the English language
Yes, perhaps that's why you can't understand what I have been trying to teach you.
I am embarking on a project to learn Arabic, so at least no one can throw at me, the claim that one cannot understand the Quran without knowing Arabic. [My personal claim is one can understand Islam via the English translations -at least 30 and the various commentaries in supplement with knowledge of human nature]
I have visited a few sites and covered in theory [only] the 28 alphabets, the connectors [beginning, middle, end], the vowels, diacritic marks, etc.
I have also covered the Tajweed and makharij elements [theory].
Any one has suggestions of shortcuts [accelerated learning techniques] on how I can speed up learning to write, read and speak Arabic in a shorter time than normal.
Any advice or links would be welcomed?
Continuum,
You do not need to learn Arabic to understand the Qur'an. Using all the translations available, you will get very close to understanding the Qur'an for your personal understanding. But if you want to debate about the verses of the Qur'an or debate about Islam (the Qur'an), you may be found out lacking Arabic knowledge. For this reason, I suggest that you look into the translations and note the words of Arabic translated differently in English translations. Then try to understand (you can ask here) why the difference in translation. You can then get to the heart of the matter.
Learning Arabic, beginning with Arabic Alphabet, will take you too long to learn Arabic. One of the main problems you will face is understanding Arabic grammar. It is quite complicated for non-Arabic speakers.
The sketch in your initial post shows where the sound of each of these Arabic letters comes from (lips, teeth, tongue or throat, and whether you have to open your mouth wide or not. This is for speaking Arabic and reciting the Arabic Qur'an properly (tajweed). Reciting the Qur'an is an art in itself. I can read the whole Arabic qur'an but am not very good when it comes to tajweed. As I have no need to be a professional reciter (such as Imam or scholar), I have concentrated on actual "message" rather than the in what sound the "message" is. To me, it is more important to understand the "message" and learn to act accordingly than understand its sound but not its substance.
I am embarking on a project to learn Arabic, so at least no one can throw at me, the claim that one cannot understand the Quran without knowing Arabic. [My personal claim is one can understand Islam via the English translations -at least 30 and the various commentaries in supplement with knowledge of human nature]
I have visited a few sites and covered in theory [only] the 28 alphabets, the connectors [beginning, middle, end], the vowels, diacritic marks, etc.
I have also covered the Tajweed and makharij elements [theory].
Any one has suggestions of shortcuts [accelerated learning techniques] on how I can speed up learning to write, read and speak Arabic in a shorter time than normal.
Any advice or links would be welcomed?
You will find it to be an interesting venture. If you also desire to learn to read and write Arabic, I suggest you learn MSA (Modern Standard Arabic) If your primary goal is to understand the Qur'an then it would be best to learn Qur'anic Arabic. It is much easier to learn, but of no help in learning to converse in Arabic. While learning MSA would give a usable level of comprehension in any Arabic form. For Quranic Arabic pronunciation is essential as many words will change meaning depending upon the pronunciation. The Quran is intended to be heard not read, with the written Qur'an being simply a memory aid for the Hafiz.
Here is a link for learning MSA, The free download and staying with the free version should suffice. It is a good starting point. I do not recommend any of the paid language programs unless a person has exposure to Arabic speaking people. They fast become boring if you have no one to practice on.
A very good extremely basic introduction is "Arabic School" designed for children. Although the free version does not go much beyond learning the alphabet, it is a good starting point. I do not recommend the full paid version for adults as it fast becomes redundant.
فرْقَانًا is not equal farkan but فُرْقَانًا in 8:29 is furqanan There is no Kaf in فرْقَانًا but only Qaf.
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If the translation of (that the book) =ذلك الكتاب
that=ذلك
" ))ال(al=the
Note that the excess is not no place to express
Because it is circumstantial
It is not circumstantial/excess but used to make it specific when used as with "the kitab" instead of "kitab". Also, Allah (Al-lah=the God). Here it is not any god but specific God.
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So why using((((((( this)))))( in) translator)))))
Because it is about specifically this book (that the book). "That" is used as conjunction here rather than pointing to something far that is opposite of this. The book of Musa (Taurat) is mentioned in the Qur'an several times but never as "that book". Do you know anywhere in the Qur'an where Taurat is mentioned as "that book"?
How can you say that it is about Taurat?
"That" in Arabic, used as conjunction, can be translated in English as "this". For example:
He lost his sight as a child but that didn't prevent him from pursuing his education.
فَقَدَ البَصَرَ وَهُوَ طِفْلٌ على أَنَّ ذلك لم يَمْنَعْهُ من مُواصَلةِ الدِراسةِ
In English, I can translate it as:
He lost his sight as a child but this didn't prevent him from pursuing his education.
is not equal farkan but فُرْقَانًا in 8:29 is furqanan There is no Kaf in فرْقَانًا but only Qaf.
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Writing names which obtains a difference
Type the Koran
And will not care whether q or insufficient k
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It is not circumstantial/excess but used to make it specific when used as with "the kitab" instead of "kitab". Also, Allah (Al-lah=the God). Here it is not any god but specific God
.Majesty name can not be hashed
Because if you do that, الله will be لاه
This is a big calamity
Because this is the Lat, a lunar deity who was known Ghent Arabs
The Kaaba was a place of worship
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Because it is about specifically this book (that the book). "That" is used as conjunction here rather than pointing to something far that is opposite of this. The book of Musa (Taurat) is mentioned in the Qur'an several times but never as "that book". Do you know anywhere in the Qur'an where Taurat is mentioned as "that book"?
How can you say that it is about Taurat?
write it and we learn
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"That" in Arabic, used as conjunction, can be translated in English as "this". For example:
He lost his sight as a child but that didn't prevent him from pursuing his education.
فَقَدَ البَصَرَ وَهُوَ طِفْلٌ على أَنَّ ذلك لم يَمْنَعْهُ من مُواصَلةِ الدِراسةِ
In English, I can translate it as:
He lost his sight as a child but this didn't prevent him from pursuing his education.
Meanings haven't changed in English.
this not true
Because that preceded the monument tool ان
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They differ from
That
Because it is here Mbtdae مبتداء
It is a name from the names of reference اسم اشارة
book =خبر
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