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By "free consulting," I mean being presented with "mock" problems or issues and explaining options to remedy them. Also other related practices pertaining to the industry.
I can pick up on when this is happening, and I am always mindful not to get into the application of the knowledge (how, tactics, methodologies, measurements, etc.).
Still, it does suck and make one feel used.
I'm pretty sure that is also illegal to have someone doing useful work unpaid. Even with internships they are cracking down on abuses.
There are places that don't disclose salary until they make an offer. I wouldn't say it's that uncommon. That said, it's also a fine to ask for a range at this stage.
That doesn't sound like free consulting or unpaid useful work, but a test of sorts to see what you're capable of.
In marketing research, candidates are sometimes asked to look at data and put together a report, followed by a presentation. It's on work that's already been done, not work we haven't gotten around to and want someone to do for free.
Round two of the interview is typically an acceptable time to ask about salary. I am not in HR however at the company I work for (which is rather large) I am a part of the college recruiting team and am responsible for interviews and screenings. When prospective interns/coops ask about salary, we always respond that we are in line with market conditions. Typically we do not give out salaries until an offer is made for entry-level positions.
On the reverse side of things, for a highly technical position (such as a new Trader or CFO), salary and incentive compensation is obviously discussed prior to making an offer. I think it really depends on the level of position you are applying for.
What kind of job is this? I find it ridiculous that a company needs that much time to decide on a candidate.
As questioned, it does depend on the type of position. At the company I work for we typically do a phone screening, in-house interview with HR (or on-campus interview for interns), and finally a 4 hour interview, including the direct supervisor, two managers, and the controller (this is for financial related roles).
So I do not feel the company is too out of line with their requests.
I think it was fine to have asked for a salary range at this point, but I also would not want to work for a company that considered it reasonable to send an email over the weekend saying they wanted me there on Monday morning for another interview. I think that is a sign that they don't treat their employees with respect and that isn't going to get better once you start working there. At this point, there is a good chance you won't hear back from them, and who knows whether it's asking the salary or because you didn't jump when they said jump. But either way, I think it's a lucky escape, as this does not sound like a good place to work.
I think it was fine to have asked for a salary range at this point, but I also would not want to work for a company that considered it reasonable to send an email over the weekend saying they wanted me there on Monday morning for another interview. I think that is a sign that they don't treat their employees with respect and that isn't going to get better once you start working there. At this point, there is a good chance you won't hear back from them, and who knows whether it's asking the salary or because you didn't jump when they said jump. But either way, I think it's a lucky escape, as this does not sound like a good place to work.
I agree. If they are this thoughtless with people not even on their payroll, imagine how they treat employees. You would probably be E-mailed Saturday and told to come in to work on Sunday.
I think the OP's response was professional and sensible at this stage. Ball's in their court now to treat this as a serious negotiation or forget about it. My gut feeling is that it's a really low-paying job, they know it and they are trying to, as someone else suggested "suck you in."
A company I worked for used to run ads and have us batch up work and give each applicant a batch to do for a "test". There was NO job. Just a way not to have to pay to get the job done.
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