Streetcar routes that would help and work for the city (Kansas City: loan, sales tax)

[lovekcmo]

KC needs to move on streetcar lines. A Broadway line-all the way from the Plaza to Briarcliff. A Linwood line from Broadway to the VA Center. A 39th Street line from state line to Prospect. 18th Street Line, 12th Street Line, 8th street line. Independence Ave would have been good. A Troost Line and Prospect Line would have served the East Side. An Armour Blvd line from Broadway to Paseo would have been good. So much potential for KC.

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by lovekcmo

KC needs to move on streetcar lines. A Broadway line-all the way from the Plaza to Briarcliff. A Linwood line from Broadway to the VA Center. A 39th Street line from state line to Prospect. 18th Street Line, 12th Street Line, 8th street line. Independence Ave would have been good. A Troost Line and Prospect Line would have served the East Side. An Armour Blvd line from Broadway to Paseo would have been good. So much potential for KC.

The East side has shown zero interest in passing a tax for rail (or buses for that matter). They missed their opportunity for a very long time I think.

KC will be lucky to add three more miles to get it to the plaza before the year 2025. It's not going to be easy getting it through midtown. There will be a lot more people putting up a fight against it.

[PA650]

Originally Posted by kcmo

The East side has shown zero interest in passing a tax for rail (or buses for that matter). They missed their opportunity for a very long time I think.

KC will be lucky to add three more miles to get it to the plaza before the year 2025. It's not going to be easy getting it through midtown. There will be a lot more people putting up a fight against it.

I'm excited for Midtown to get it. I really want to see 39th and Main revitalized and less thrift stores and payday loan type establishments in the area. I'm sure the owners of the Plaza and other nearby business owners would love to see a fixed connection that gives workers, residents, and guests downtown an efficient way for them to travel down to them. Although it's the first week, 6,975 people rode it on Friday. I mean, it only goes from Union Station to the River Market, that's crazy.

[lovekcmo]

Originally Posted by kcmo

The East side has shown zero interest in passing a tax for rail (or buses for that matter). They missed their opportunity for a very long time I think.

KC will be lucky to add three more miles to get it to the plaza before the year 2025. It's not going to be easy getting it through midtown. There will be a lot more people putting up a fight against it.

The East Side of KC needs to be abandoned and let them form their own independent city-East Kansas City, MO. They can learn from East St Louis IL on how to run a city.

[rwiksell]

Originally Posted by lovekcmo

The East Side of KC needs to be abandoned and let them form their own independent city-East Kansas City, MO. They can learn from East St Louis IL on how to run a city.

Why is this worth saying?

[DaveKCMO]

Originally Posted by kcmo

It's not going to be easy getting it through midtown. There will be a lot more people putting up a fight against it.

actually, it will be easy. a majority in that corridor already said yes. otherwise no one would be trying again so quickly.

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by DaveKCMO

actually, it will be easy. a majority in that corridor already said yes. otherwise no one would be trying again so quickly.

I just remember all the light rail plans having a lot of anti rail businesses in midtown. I think they would put up a fight, but hopefully a fight they would lose.

It's just been a week, so you really can't gauge long term use by the first week of ridership on the first rail line in KC in decades that's free to use. However, I'm impressed so far and hope the use remains high. They need to expand the line asap.

[lovekcmo]

Originally Posted by lovekcmo

The East Side of KC needs to be abandoned and let them form their own independent city-East Kansas City, MO. They can learn from East St Louis IL on how to run a city.

There's nothing malicious about saying this, just that there's probably minimum earnings tax/property tax/sales tax coming into the city from the east side, yet there's tax dollars going into a hollowed out east side of the city. The residents on the east side can vote on non residents paying an earnings tax, whether they themselves pay an earnings tax, and vote no for a new terminal at KCI, because they don't fly and don't care about the airport or anything for that matter that would make KC better.

[SPonteKC]

Originally Posted by lovekcmo

There's nothing malicious about saying this, just that there's probably minimum earnings tax/property tax/sales tax coming into the city from the east side, yet there's tax dollars going into a hollowed out east side of the city. The residents on the east side can vote on non residents paying an earnings tax, whether they themselves pay an earnings tax, and vote no for a new terminal at KCI, because they don't fly and don't care about the airport or anything for that matter that would make KC better.

You are painting with a pretty broad brush.

[rwiksell]

Originally Posted by lovekcmo

There's nothing malicious about saying this, just that there's probably minimum earnings tax/property tax/sales tax coming into the city from the east side, yet there's tax dollars going into a hollowed out east side of the city. The residents on the east side can vote on non residents paying an earnings tax, whether they themselves pay an earnings tax, and vote no for a new terminal at KCI, because they don't fly and don't care about the airport or anything for that matter that would make KC better.

Saying that any group of people needs to be "abandoned" IS malicious. Sorry.