[clutchcargo777]

How in the world is a drug store selling tobacco products alienating non-smokers? Is the very sight of those brightly colored packs at checkout so offensive that a non-smoker will refuse to patronize a store that has them?

Further proof that this is more about control then anything. If you are not sure, look at eCigs. All the nastiness removed and they are just as unacceptable as the real thing.

Control folks.

[ScoopLV]

Originally Posted by clutchcargo777

How in the world is a drug store selling tobacco products alienating non-smokers?

Non-smokers don't want rows and rows of cigarettes at the check-out counter for their kids to see. CVS has decided that there are so few smokers left that obliging the non-smokers is worth the loss of tobacco revenues.

Only a matter of time.

[jlawrence01]

Originally Posted by ScoopLV

Non-smokers don't want rows and rows of cigarettes at the check-out counter for their kids to see. CVS has decided that there are so few smokers left that obliging the non-smokers is worth the loss of tobacco revenues.

Only a matter of time.

How can there be much profit in having to carry hundreds of brands for smokers?

If CVS is so concerned about our health, however, why the huge end caps full of sodas, potato chips and the like?

[ScoopLV]

Originally Posted by jlawrence01

How can there be much profit in having to carry hundreds of brands for smokers?

If CVS is so concerned about our health, however, why the huge end caps full of sodas, potato chips and the like?

While I agree completely with this question, the answer is that smoking is different from junk food. It just is. Smokers are apparently blind to it.

[Wyndsong71]

Originally Posted by ScoopLV

You don't get it. When Northwest banned smoking on airplanes, that was the event horizon for the end of public smoking. As soon as the airlines cared more about not alienating non-smokers than they did about alienating smokers, they changed their policies.

As soon as the restaurants cared more about not alienating non-smokers, they changed their policies. As soon as the stadiums and concert halls cared more about not alienating non-smokers, they changed their policies. A major retail store has just announced that they care more about not alienating non-smokers than they care about tobacco revenue.

Smokers have no "right" to smoke. They cannot smoke in airlines. They cannot smoke in stadiums and restaurants. Bars and casinos are their last bastion, their inner keep. And as soon as the bars and casinos care more about not alienating non-smokers, it's lights out for smoking in public.

I don't have to do a damned thing to change smoking policy. Smokers are up against the free market. Non-smokers don't like cigarette smoke and there are many, many more of them spending many, many more dollars. Welcome to capitalism. The end is near and there's not a thing anyone can do about it.

NONE of what you just talked about had anything to do with the free market. If the free market were allowed to rule, then there would be no bans in most restaurants, bars and other places. it was legislation that caused the bans, not business owners who decided to do jack! The bars here demanded a repeal of the law and won that! It wasn't their choice to ban smoking!! So don't talk about it being capitalism, because capitalism wouldn't be banning anything. CVS is one lone store who decided to try this out. It may work for them, or it may not. But the ONLY reason other stores will follow suit will be because of legislation!

[Wyndsong71]

Originally Posted by ScoopLV

Non-smokers don't want rows and rows of cigarettes at the check-out counter for their kids to see. CVS has decided that there are so few smokers left that obliging the non-smokers is worth the loss of tobacco revenues.

Only a matter of time.

Obviously you don't go into stores very often then. "rows and rows of cigarettes" There aren't rows and rows of cigarettes anywhere except in a smoke shop. #Fail

[wpme]

They recently instituted a smoking ban in one of the towns I frequent, the business owners don't like it, and virtually no body adheres to it

[ScoopLV]

Originally Posted by Wyndsong71

Obviously you don't go into stores very often then. "rows and rows of cigarettes" There aren't rows and rows of cigarettes anywhere except in a smoke shop. #Fail

There used to be rows and rows of cigarettes at the check-out counter at CVS. But you can find those same rows and rows of cigarettes at Walgreens. Just saw it a couple days ago. There are rows and rows of cigarettes right now at the Smith's where I shop. They're in the middle of the check-out lanes, in a glass case. Dozens of different brands. I'll bet that doesn't last very much longer.

[ScoopLV]

Originally Posted by Wyndsong71

NONE of what you just talked about had anything to do with the free market. If the free market were allowed to rule, then there would be no bans in most restaurants, bars and other places. it was legislation that caused the bans, not business owners who decided to do jack! The bars here demanded a repeal of the law and won that! It wasn't their choice to ban smoking!! So don't talk about it being capitalism, because capitalism wouldn't be banning anything. CVS is one lone store who decided to try this out. It may work for them, or it may not. But the ONLY reason other stores will follow suit will be because of legislation!

You are being willfully ignorant. Do you think for one minute that airlines would go back to smoking flights, even if they were allowed to do so?

Of course they wouldn't. There aren't enough smokers left to justify alienating all the non-smokers, who make up the lion's share of their market. Same thing with restaurants. Nobody wants to go back to the old way.

Every time smoking is banned from a particular area (concert venues, sporting events, restaurants, public transportation), people realize how much better it is when places don't smell like a dirty ashtray. This is going to keep happening everywhere until there is no more smoking in public. There are less and less smokers every year. Their money becomes more-and-more meaningless compared to the vast majority of people who do not smoke.

And keep in mind, I am not doing a THING to interfere with smoker's ability to smoke. Not a thing. I'm not writing any letters. I'm not demanding that business owners institute no-smoking policies. That isn't worth my time. I don't have to do a thing because the market is going to do it for me all by itself.

[oeccscclhjhn]

If they can make a science oven, they can figure out how to allow smokers and non-smokers to coexist onboard a passenger airliner at altitude. Wait. Hold the phone. There's more than enough yellow coffee cup oxygen masks to pop down for the non's to keep it clean. Win win.