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If you've "worked in this field for 13 years" and still advocate blindly following the letter of the law even when you know it is not the prudent thing for someone to do, then you certainly do have a quite obvious agenda.
That "agenda" as you put it is the enforcement of immigration law.
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Your advice runs counter to advice a qualified lawyer or most people familiar with the law would give.
My advice keeps them from running afoul the law. I have little regard for lawyers in the immigration field who charge enormous amounts of money to fill out applications the applicant could fill out.
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Re-read the initial post, they never specified how or if they entered the US. You are assuming they are in the US and then you are giving out bad--or at least incomplete--advice based on that assumption.
Reread my post. I covered all sides of the spectrum.
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If you don't have an agenda, you'd take the time to acknowledge the truths in my posts and add additional helpful information, as I have in yours. I truly welcome your warnings about the consequences of skirting the law in places, but you need to acknowledge what is the prudent thing for people to do if you want to be taken seriously as a helpful poster instead of just another anti-immigrant ranter or worse.
Good. Common ground. Keep in mind I remove people for violating said law.
Good. Common ground. Keep in mind I remove people for violating said law.
How can I keep something in mind that you never bothered to state?
Well, no surprise then why you answer the way you do, and your occupation confirms that you have an agenda which does not necessarily correspond to giving advice which is necessarily best for those inquiring here. You'd do well to admit it to yourself and confess it when giving advice to those who might not have read our discussion in this thread.
One last time, I'll suggest you identify your potential conflict of interests when posting advice, and then I'll let this lie as no one else seems interested in this thread, save the two of us. I will read your response, though, should you bother to post one.
How can I keep something in mind that you never bothered to state?
Well, no surprise then why you answer the way you do, and your occupation confirms that you have an agenda which does not necessarily correspond to giving advice which is necessarily best for those inquiring here. You'd do well to admit it to yourself and confess it when giving advice to those who might not have read our discussion in this thread.
One last time, I'll suggest you identify your potential conflict of interests when posting advice, and then I'll let this lie as no one else seems interested in this thread, save the two of us. I will read your response, though, should you bother to post one.
My occupation is no agenda. I swore an oath to uphold all laws and I keep my word.
My DD was born in USA and is automatically a canadian citizen due to Canadian parents. America doesn't follow us to Canada to tell us to choose one.
Now, if it had been the other way around, they would ask her to have her Canadian status renounced.
I had a neighbour born in the states but has Canadian citizenship as well. The American gov.never bothered her about it.
The US definitely allows dual citizenship but they have not always done so - maybe that's why some people didn't know it's possible. I have even heard of some people being falsely told by immigration lawyers that it is not possible.
Quite a few posts ago minibrings posted a link to the official US state department website describing the US policy on dual citizenship. Here it is again... US State Department Services Dual Nationality
For those that can't be bothered reading it, it clearly states "The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy".
Here is another quote from it "A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another."
Why are a few people still trying to claim it is not possible? You are wrong. If you still don't believe it then please post a link to something contradicting the US state department's own policy instead of just making unfounded claims. That is not very helpful to anybody here.
The US definitely allows dual citizenship but they have not always done so - maybe that's why some people didn't know it's possible. I have even heard of some people being falsely told by immigration lawyers that it is not possible.
Quite a few posts ago minibrings posted a link to the official US state department website describing the US policy on dual citizenship. Here it is again... US State Department Services Dual Nationality
For those that can't be bothered reading it, it clearly states "The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy".
Here is another quote from it "A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another."
Why are a few people still trying to claim it is not possible? You are wrong. If you still don't believe it then please post a link to something contradicting the US state department's own policy instead of just making unfounded claims. That is not very helpful to anybody here.
Claim dual citizenship to a CBP officer and watch what happens.
So, I am confused here. Are you saying that the CBP has a different interpretation of the law than does the State Department?
That's what it looks like they are trying to claim to me too.
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Claim dual citizenship to a CBP officer and watch what happens.
You speak with such authority (and say that you have worked in this field for better than 13 years) about a number of immigration/visa issues that they sound plausible but the fact that you are ignoring the evidence presented to you draws into question the other posts you have made, we have no way of knowing whether they are accurate or not.
Once again, if you have information contradicting the US State Department then PLEASE post it instead of just saying "watch what happens".
When entering the US, citizens are required are required to present their US passport, but are free to carry as many as they would like. Here is another link to a different part of the state department's website.
Since I have to assume you won't bother reading this one either, it states.
"I have dual citizenship. Which passport should I use to travel to the United States?
All U.S. citizens, even dual citizens/nationals, must enter and depart the United States using his/her U.S. passport."
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