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Old 09-23-2011, 03:28 PM
 
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Here's what you're missing. If we unionize a large percentage of private sector jobs in the US the chasm between haves and have nots will grow exponentially.
Not sure where you've been the last thirty years but that particular chasm is as bad as its been since the gilded age. The top 10% possess 80% of all financial assets and the bottom 90% hold only 20% of all financial wealth.Not surprising that this is mostly on the back of the middle class, who by and large are barely hanging on these days.
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Big wins for labor unions would soon be followed by pink slips and mass unemployment as companies move to more business friendly countries. Those that stay would have to pair down employees to the minimum to keep with international companies.
This already happened, and their jobs were shipped to places where they don't have to pay more than cents an hour. Plus, we're talking about public sector employees, whose jobs can't be outsourced. You can't outsource a cop.
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Sure it sounds good on paper, more money, protections and benefits for the little guy. In practice, it would be a disaster.
It worked just fine during America's golden age, post WW2. It's been the recent decades, where union membership has dropped to all-time lows as manufacturing has gone abroad, that has been a disaster for the little guy.
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Old 09-24-2011, 04:11 AM
 
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All you union supporters, please read Newsday today about the corrupt and costly union work rules that are bankrupting the MTA.

Go ahead, defend those leeches
Yes everyone should bow to your corporate masters and get a private sector job with a worthless 401k no workers rights and welfare wages.

More money for the CEOs and their board members!
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Old 09-25-2011, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Not sure where you've been the last thirty years but that particular chasm is as bad as its been since the gilded age. The top 10% possess 80% of all financial assets and the bottom 90% hold only 20% of all financial wealth.Not surprising that this is mostly on the back of the middle class, who by and large are barely hanging on these days.
I agree but that argument has nothing to do with the escalation of union benefits and salaries, if anything public unions for the most part have done so at the benefit of the middle class. Raising public worker benefits and salaries far beyond the median is just not sustainable.
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