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The 2 hour show could have been condensed to about 15 minutes. Repetitive interviews, shots of the same discovery sites over and over. A really lousy production. Maybe one of the other networks could do a better job. There's got to be more information than they presented.
There was more info in the news article link JMM posted than in the entire program.
Regarding Gilbert, apparently she was hopped up on various drugs the night she dissapeared. Is it possible she wandered down the beach, somehow ended up in the water, and then drowned?
It just seems like if the john or the driver would have done it, they'd have been charged already.
This is my theory as well. Im surprised more people don't see it like we do. It makes perfect sense, she was whacked out and took off running in a delusional state, she somehow drowned and the tides washed her body away hence the reason they can't seem to find her remains. It would also explain the purse they found today in the swampy area that was under water last winter & spring when they did the initial searches.
It's been reported that not only was she a drug addict but she was also on medication for her bi-polar disorder. So she was on at least 2 drugs that night ... and most medications do not go well with illegal drugs.
This is my theory as well. Im surprised more people don't see it like we do. It makes perfect sense, she was whacked out and took off running in a delusional state, she somehow drowned and the tides washed her body away hence the reason they can't seem to find her remains. It would also explain the purse they found today in the swampy area that was under water last winter & spring when they did the initial searches.
It's been reported that not only was she a drug addict but she was also on medication for her bi-polar disorder. So she was on at least 2 drugs that night ... and most medications do not go well with illegal drugs.
If she drowned in the marshy area, her body would have gradually filled with gas lifting her to the surface. Given the time of the year and the number of recreational fishermen and fishing boats through the area (as well as locals from OB using the waterways) someone would have found the floater.
What is not to say that someone in the unholy trinity found her drowned body and relocated it?
If she drowned in the marshy area, her body would have gradually filled with gas lifting her to the surface. Given the time of the year and the number of recreational fishermen and fishing boats through the area (as well as locals from OB using the waterways) someone would have found the floater.
What is not to say that someone in the unholy trinity found her drowned body and relocated it?
seems like that's usually what you hear about happening to bodies but is that ALWAYS the case?
Additionally, if she did get swept away with the tide it's possible the body was deposited in any number of places in that area...places that haven't been checked.
Conditions are ideal for searching right now because the tide is low and poison ivy and ticks are less of a concern than during the warmer months, said Insp. Stuart Cameron, commanding officer of Suffolk police special patrol bureau.
good thinking! Can't have our heroes going out on disability with horrible ITCHING!
I read on that LISK website from a few posts about a missing cctv tape from that night and lost evidence, a jacket or something? And there could have been a possible "cover-up" for one of our heroes? Does anyone think this is a possibility?
seems like that's usually what you hear about happening to bodies but is that ALWAYS the case?
Additionally, if she did get swept away with the tide it's possible the body was deposited in any number of places in that area...places that haven't been checked.
The pocketbook was found during a search of a marshy area that had been underwater and inaccessible when it was previously searched, the source said.
Other items were found during the search, which occurred north and east of a gated community in Oak Beach, west of the Robert Moses Causeway and south of Ocean Parkway, the source said.
If the purse were found in the search area north and east of the community, in a marshy area previously inaccessible, it leads me to believe that it is on the north side of the Ocean Parkway.
It is dark and quiet that early in the morning -- who knows if she crossed the OP and did, in fact, drown on the bay side -- or in what appears to be a mushy area between the OP and Larboard off of Anchor?
Either way, it would take a lot for her to drift off and out of the inlet to the Atlantic.
One of the stories mentioned something about a jetty with old unused grave stones. Is it possible that she fell in that area and drowned, but became partially lodged in the stones preventing her from being carried with the water until such a time where she was sufficiently eaten at by critters and decomposed as to allow what remained to drift off?
seems like that's usually what you hear about happening to bodies but is that ALWAYS the case?
Additionally, if she did get swept away with the tide it's possible the body was deposited in any number of places in that area...places that haven't been checked.
If it's not weighted down (anchor, concrete blocks, etc.) it usually will, especially if it originally went in where the water is shallow. Remember Lacy Peterson? Even she (and her poor baby RIP) was found and her husband took her out in a boat to rough, deep water, plus weighted down her body. Even when the murderer cuts the body into pieces and throws them in the water, pieces surface. One way I think a whole body could disappear in the water is if a large marine animal like a shark ate it, but I don't think that could have happened to Shannan Gilbert.
I read on that LISK website from a few posts about a missing cctv tape from that night and lost evidence, a jacket or something? And there could have been a possible "cover-up" for one of our heroes? Does anyone think this is a possibility?
The NY Times article I linked to earlier said:
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Some investigators have said the killer might be an active or former law enforcement officer, because his phone calls to the relative did not last long enough to pinpoint his location and were made from Times Square and other crowded sites, which would make it more difficult for the authorities to pick him out using surveillance cameras.
So there's some talk he might be a cop, but as to other police covering up for him ... I find that hard to believe. Everybody has their limits, even the "blue wall of silence" or whatever they call it. I don't think ANY police officer could be so popular amongst his peers that they would hide evidence and cover up for him so he could get away scot-free with being a serial killer. Did it say the police found and lost OR sought and did not find the cctv tape, etc., AT the time of Shannan's disappearance or a few months later after the first bodies were discovered? The thing about the cctv tape, etc., is that, unfortunately, SCPD did NOT take Shannan Gilbert's disappearance seriously until several months later when the first group of bodies were found. So they might have been backtracking on an incident several months old and things get lost, etc., when people don't think they have any importance.
The pocketbook was found during a search of a marshy area that had been underwater and inaccessible when it was previously searched, the source said.
Other items were found during the search, which occurred north and east of a gated community in Oak Beach, west of the Robert Moses Causeway and south of Ocean Parkway, the source said.
If the purse were found in the search area north and east of the community, in a marshy area previously inaccessible, it leads me to believe that it is on the north side of the Ocean Parkway.
It is dark and quiet that early in the morning -- who knows if she crossed the OP and did, in fact, drown on the bay side -- or in what appears to be a mushy area between the OP and Larboard off of Anchor?
Either way, it would take a lot for her to drift off and out of the inlet to the Atlantic.
One of the stories mentioned something about a jetty with old unused grave stones. Is it possible that she fell in that area and drowned, but became partially lodged in the stones preventing her from being carried with the water until such a time where she was sufficiently eaten at by critters and decomposed as to allow what remained to drift off?
The thing I don't get with this is why they think the purse might be Shannan's when they found it approx. 3 miles away from where she disappeared? It said in the story they found it near where the bodies were found, not in the gated community.
As for her being stuck in the stones, well we need to see that area to see if that is possible. And yeah if the body was trapped somewhere the smaller marine creatures could make a feast of all the flesh, but the bones would still remain (although they could get lodged in the sand or drift off).
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