What do Angelenos think of Orange County (OC)? (Los Angeles, Oxnard: university, to live in)

[hipcat]

Cleaner than LA, a lot more conservative, has very few Blacks

[saibot]

Originally Posted by deshawn.bolden._.

That could be cause of its age of development and or having like no history..

Like no history? You mean having the oldest surviving building and neighborhood in California, that kind of like no history?

[Lovehound]

Originally Posted by adr3naline

The OC sub-forum has an interesting thread with a lot of potential: What do folks in the OC think of LA. I think flipping the question will provide some entertainment.

So if you're an Angeleno, what do you think of "the" OC?

I think this is one of those stupid topics "What do people in city X think about city Y?"

To be honest I never think about OC unless I'm on the freeway driving through it, except I usually take the 210 to San Diego so I never drive through OC. So I never think about it. Never.

Don't they have an Orange County in Florida? I think about the two about the same amount of time. Couple nanoseconds per year.

Why do ppl start these topics? Why not start an interesting topic like how many warts does a frog have?

[Bert_from_back_East]

It seems as if most of the white non-Hispanic people who live in Long Beach, Lakewood, Signal Hill, Artesia, Bellflower, Cerritos, Downey and La Habra Heights, myself included, tend to identify more with Orange County than Los Angeles due in large part to the proximity principle.

First and foremost, the more upscale areas of the Gateway Cities region tend to be very close to Orange County from a geographic standpoint and, therefore, much more accessible, given that traffic in Orange County is lighter than in LA and parking is more plentiful.

Most of the whites who were born and raised in the Gateway Cities seem to be fairly conservative in political ideology. Therefore, they tend to identify more with Orange County politics than LA politics.

Also, many whites in the Gateway Cities feel a stronger cultural connection to Orange County because there are many more white people who live in Orange County relative to LA. On a similar note, many whites who grew up in the Gateway Cities were among the first to settle Orange County in the 1970's and 80's, so a lot of whites still living in, say, Downey or Lakewood most likely have extended family in Orange County.

In Southern California, there seems to be very pronounced divisions in "California culture" among different ethnic / racial groups. Anglo whites, Mexicans, Asians, blacks, etc. all seem to have very different respective cultures. Many minority friends of mine in both LA and Orange County feel as though Orange County's overarching culture is the white California culture that is marketed and sold to the rest of the world. Because my friends are brown, have parents who don't speak English, grew up poor or working-class, etc., they simply cannot identify with white California culture, which tends to be place emphasis on leisure and more expensive hobbies, delicacies and toys (i.e., surfing, horseback-riding, world travel, expensive foreign cars, varied cuisine, etc.).

[saibot]

Originally Posted by Bert_from_back_East

It seems as if most of the white non-Hispanic people who live in Long Beach, Lakewood, Signal Hill, Artesia, Bellflower, Cerritos, Downey and La Habra Heights, myself included, tend to identify more with Orange County than Los Angeles due in large part to the proximity principle.

Interesting statement. I grew up in La Habra, and I was very aware that we lived in OC and not LA County. However, I did not realize until well after I grew up that La Habra Heights was not only a separate city, but was in LA County--and I was pretty surprised to hear that. It was literally right up the street from us, half the kids at my school lived there, and it just seemed like part of La Habra/OC.

I think Whittier belongs in your list, too.

[NJ Brazen_3133]

Originally Posted by Bert_from_back_East

It seems as if most of the white non-Hispanic people who live in Long Beach, Lakewood, Signal Hill, Artesia, Bellflower, Cerritos, Downey and La Habra Heights, myself included, tend to identify more with Orange County than Los Angeles due in large part to the proximity principle.

First and foremost, the more upscale areas of the Gateway Cities region tend to be very close to Orange County from a geographic standpoint and, therefore, much more accessible, given that traffic in Orange County is lighter than in LA and parking is more plentiful.

Most of the whites who were born and raised in the Gateway Cities seem to be fairly conservative in political ideology. Therefore, they tend to identify more with Orange County politics than LA politics.

Also, many whites in the Gateway Cities feel a stronger cultural connection to Orange County because there are many more white people who live in Orange County relative to LA. On a similar note, many whites who grew up in the Gateway Cities were among the first to settle Orange County in the 1970's and 80's, so a lot of whites still living in, say, Downey or Lakewood most likely have extended family in Orange County.

In Southern California, there seems to be very pronounced divisions in "California culture" among different ethnic / racial groups. Anglo whites, Mexicans, Asians, blacks, etc. all seem to have very different respective cultures. Many minority friends of mine in both LA and Orange County feel as though Orange County's overarching culture is the white California culture that is marketed and sold to the rest of the world. Because my friends are brown, have parents who don't speak English, grew up poor or working-class, etc., they simply cannot identify with white California culture, which tends to be place emphasis on leisure and more expensive hobbies, delicacies and toys (i.e., surfing, horseback-riding, world travel, expensive foreign cars, varied cuisine, etc.).

LOL I started a thread about this, pockets of white people in the Gateway Cities. I was staying in Stanton. So I was like right at the border of OC and Gateway Cities. OC seems like many Asian and Mexican there as well. I may have skipped over Cerritos, and Bellflower on my little joyrides.

[RoaminRebel]

Suburban, more conservative, somewhat more entitled. Some of the people have an eccentricity about them that seems contrived. The ones that have a couple nickles in their pocket don't know how to be tasteful - lack sophistication or depth.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by RoaminRebel

Suburban, more conservative, somewhat more entitled. Some of the people have an eccentricity about them that seems contrived. The ones that have a couple nickles in their pocket don't know how to be tasteful - lack sophistication or depth.

It seems you live in North Carolina. Are you an Angeleno? If you were an Angeleno and not a visitor or previous short term resident, you would know that Orange County is not really that different from LA (most especially the old LA).

[adr3naline]

Originally Posted by Lovehound

I think this is one of those stupid topics "What do people in city X think about city Y?"

Why do ppl start these topics? Why not start an interesting topic like how many warts does a frog have?

How miserable does one have to be to chose a shoot-the-sh*t thread explicitly marked entertainment and voluntarily get worked up about it?

Originally Posted by RoaminRebel

Suburban, more conservative, somewhat more entitled. Some of the people have an eccentricity about them that seems contrived. The ones that have a couple nickles in their pocket don't know how to be tasteful - lack sophistication or depth.

Aside from the suburban and conservative notes, this description feels better suited for LA folk than OC folk. My own experiences and completely made up stats tell me LA proper is primarily comprised of blow-hard transplants spending as much as they make, leasing the most gaudy vehicle their credit will buy them. Are these folks also in OC? Surely. But you'd be hard pressed to say their ratios exceed LA's.

[Ms. Intelligence]

One day all of that area from Oxnard to the Mexican border will be one huge grafetti filled traffic jam chock full of illegals. I truly think Mexicans will take back South Kalufurnya. It seems to be just a matter of when, not if. Honestly, you could not pay me enough to live in Kalufurnya.