Who will stand up to the anti gentrification nutjobs intimidating decent small business in L.A? (crimes, costs)

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by l1995

Another thing, the rents are considerably higher in NYC, and there is no shortage of Latinos (including low income immigrants from Mexico) and Latino businesses.

Boyle Heights is still overwhelmingly Hispanic. If these protestors really cared, they could make some effort to buy property in BH or elsewhere in East LA while it's still somewhat affordable.

Good point. But, I suppose that would go against their Maoist/Communist ways.
They just want to feel entitled to have to pay the same prices from 20 years ago or something.
Don't want "their" neighborhood to change at all. The reality is they aren't against coffee they just don't like seeing white people in their neighborhood.
It's not just businesses either. There was a group of UCLA students that was harassed in Boyle Heights. Simply for being white and another group for putting on opera at the park.

" Last year, an organization called Serve the People LA forced a group of UCLA students on a walking tour out of the area and chased an experimental opera company out of Hollenbeck Park."

https://la.curbed.com/2016/4/19/1146...gentrification

[majoun]

Next time I'm on the Eastside I'll go to that coffee shop and patronize them as a way of showing my support.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by majoun

Next time I'm on the Eastside I'll go to that coffee shop and patronize them as a way of showing my support.

I hope this ends up getting them more support and publicity and they don't get run out of town like the art gallery and the opera performers , walking tours etc .

These genuinely seem like decent people with every intention of being a positive in the community .

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Good point. But, I suppose that would go against their Maoist/Communist ways.
They just want to feel entitled to have to pay the same prices from 20 years ago or something.
Don't want "their" neighborhood to change at all. The reality is they aren't against coffee they just don't like seeing white people in their neighborhood.
It's not just businesses either. There was a group of UCLA students that was harassed in Boyle Heights. Simply for being white and another group for putting on opera at the park.

" Last year, an organization called Serve the People LA forced a group of UCLA students on a walking tour out of the area and chased an experimental opera company out of Hollenbeck Park."

https://la.curbed.com/2016/4/19/1146...gentrification

With that said though, the supposed gentrifiers should actually bother to have dialogue with people in the community to see if they can't come to some common ground. People who do live in a place have a stake with what's going on. I'm not saying the anti gentrification protesters are 100% right, but the gentrifiers aren't either.

And to be fair white people chase unwanted people out of their neighborhoods all the time.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by l1995

Another thing, the rents are considerably higher in NYC, and there is no shortage of Latinos (including low income immigrants from Mexico) and Latino businesses.

Boyle Heights is still overwhelmingly Hispanic. If these protestors really cared, they could make some effort to buy property in BH or elsewhere in East LA while it's still somewhat affordable.

How do you know they haven't?

Also you making comments on what's going on without having been to LA.

And are you able to buy property in NYC anytime soon? Aren't you living with your parents? Didn't you drop out of college yourself? It's not like you're doing fantastically well and are able to show these people a better way.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Nice post. I just want to make clear that white people and their kids are priced out of areas all the time, including nicer areas. I see it every day in OC.

Yes, and I've known white people and their kids to get priced out of a number of places in LA and NYC. Perhaps these people should fight harder.

Letting the real estate interests role you over without you doing anything to stop them just isn't good. Move from one area because it gets too expensive, soon the area you move to will get to expensive. Things get bad enough you might be moving to the bottom of the ocean.

[NyWriterdude]

Buying property even in ghettoes in both LA and NYC is simply unlikely and probably impossible for the vast majority of workers without advanced degrees, unless you're talking about municipal union people or Hollywood people.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by l1995

Another thing, the rents are considerably higher in NYC, and there is no shortage of Latinos (including low income immigrants from Mexico) and Latino businesses.

Boyle Heights is still overwhelmingly Hispanic. If these protestors really cared, they could make some effort to buy property in BH or elsewhere in East LA while it's still somewhat affordable.

Please tell me how people working in low level service sector jobs that pay under $20 an hour are going to be able to afford a mortgage to buy properties in Los Angeles. Even ghettoes in LA are comparatively expensive to buy, and you do have rapid gentrification.

You speak of Latino businesses, whether in LA or NYC the average person working in a restaurant, bar, ethnic foods place, etc isn't going to be able to buy a house or property. The owner probably can, but that doesn't do the workers any good.

If they can't stop gentrification, the majority of those people are SCREWED and are going to be displaced. So they are fighting against it. Unlike NYC crybabies (and there are legit fighters in NYC, not talking about them).

It's their choice whether to stay and fight or leave, but the reality is they don't have that many choices.

Moving up socioeconomically often means getting an advanced education, and you should personally know that can be difficult for many people. After all it's not likely you're buying property in NYC anytime soon.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

Yes, and I've known white people and their kids to get priced out of a number of places in LA and NYC. Perhaps these people should fight harder.

Letting the real estate interests role you over without you doing anything to stop them just isn't good. Move from one area because it gets too expensive, soon the area you move to will get to expensive. Things get bad enough you might be moving to the bottom of the ocean.

If they're so fed up, why do they vote to re-elect the same bozos in office over and over?

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by majoun

If they're so fed up, why do they vote to re-elect the same bozos in office over and over?

You'll have to ask them that. Of course they may not have voted.

Voting ALONE doesn't change things. Oregon is decriminalizing heroin, cocaine, and four other drugs, but this isn't just from voting. Activists fought for these things, and the attitudes of people in public health, the court system, the media, and in politics have change towards drug use and incarceration.

Also politicians across the spectrum can be bought, so simply voting isn't doing anything.